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| gappy tooth |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 10:57 PM
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There has been some discussion on this already, but I thought I'd start a nice neat new thread here to avoid confusion. Here's my response:
Clasp Hands - On 1st listen, this doesn't grab me by the throat. It's perfectly good, it just left me a little Then that chord sequence came in! Odd thing is, I couldn't place it! 1st I thought they were referencing one of their old songs, then I thought it was somebody elses. A couple of bars later I realised it was both! I'm not sure what I think about this yet - my instinct is to think it's lazy, but then why should I mind them using the same chords twice, but let them off simply rerecording an old song (see below)? No logic to it, really. I think that this track will have to be heard again to judge properly (don't forget, I was pretty tired, & the radio was on relatively low so as not to disturb the wife!). Oddly, when it was announced I thought it was called "Glass Pans"! That is what was originally written on my C90 box! Do you remember those 80s transparent pyrex pots you could get, called "Vision"? That's what I thought it was about. They were great for making popcorn in. "You can put the dinner on, I'll be home in 20 minutes" (or was thata different ad? Oh well). -------------------- Good Vi-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bratio-xx
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| Erkton |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:04 PM
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Saucepans. -------------------- I'm gonna walk up the side of the mountain
Then walk down the other side of the mountain I'm gonna swim in the river and lie in the sun I'm gonna try to be nice to everyone |
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| johnquays |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:05 PM
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I enjoyed the session it's the first one I've listened to live for a number of years, I enjoyed the middle two (the 2 new ones, not sure about "Clasp Hands")
![]() (Bloody hell we posted very closely-within 7 minutes of each other) -------------------- My face is slack
And I think think think Just think think think Too fast to write Too fast to work I just burn burn burn These are finest times of my life This is the greatest time of my life This is the greatest time of my life These are the biggest times of my life |
| gappy tooth |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:24 PM
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Blindness:
Funny, when Peel played this at the wrong time* I thought "Now, that sounds like a good Fall song"! It's good this, sounds great. ON 1st listen I'm not convinced that it's a solid gold composition, but I adore the performance. Very nice (best of the sess, probably). * Ah, I've missed old clumsy Peel. I wish they hadn't moved him to 11.00. I hardly ever hear it anymore. I should make an effort, I guess, otherwise noone will listen & he'll be cancelled & I'll get upset & it'll be like "One Man & His Dog" all over again. Except with more gabba. -------------------- Good Vi-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bratio-xx
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| gappy tooth |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:36 PM
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What About Us?
Nice little tune. Strange that, over the last 10 years, many of The Fall's songs owe more to Suzi Quattro & Gary Glitter than the Pistols or Beefheart. Any idea why the protagonist is a rabbit?? Not so sure about the backing vox - I seem to have been a bit fed up with these in recent times: shut yer goddamned box! -------------------- Good Vi-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bratio-xx
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| R. Totale |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:40 PM
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I wasn't sure at the beginning of Clasp Hands, then the tempo shifted.. and the whole session was pure gold from then on. I don't usually like Wrong Place Right Time, but the way it sequenced into Grass was spinetingling..
-------------------- Your mind's a prism, not a prison
"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom." Albert Einstein |
| gappy tooth |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:42 PM
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Wrong Grass:
I love Wrong Place, so it was a pleasure to hear it again. Didn't like it quite so much as the orig (less punchy) but maybe that's just because I'm not used to it. Nice work. I like the segue, because they don't just fade into each other, you can hear a ghost of Wrong for ages underneath Grass Grow. To be honest, I wasn't expecting to think much of Grass Grow, but it really works, & they play it superbly. Best "straight" cover I can think of, in fact!! So overall, very happy with the result. I preferred Peel 23, but mayeb this was only because I didn't know what to expect, whereas last night I had great faith in them. Peel was v happy (come on, tho, John, it wasn't the best sess ever - dig out your old archives, boy!) & was v polite in thanking them: he must have forgiven MES his telephonic outburst! Anyone have anything to add? Roll on the quarter century -------------------- Good Vi-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bratio-xx
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| Pontypoolie |
Posted: Aug 13 2004, 11:54 PM
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without getting too indepth songwise - I loved it
I've listened to it on the way to work and around town at lunch and I'm fkn flying job well done - cheers |
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| gappy tooth |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 12:56 AM
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If they were looking for a segue for Grass it would have gone very neatly into Hilary...
-------------------- Good Vi-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bratio-xx
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| jeffross |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 01:40 AM
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What are the chances this session will be included on the (hopefully) upcoming Peel session box set ?
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| fallchase |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 02:47 AM
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from what i have heard everything sounds great.
-------------------- The cure was in no pill.
The Fall Fallchase MBE |
| R. Totale |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 03:13 AM
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I don't think anyone's going to be disappointed with this Chase. Peelie might have been exaggerating when he said it was their best Peel session, but it could be in my top 5. Real shiver-down-the-spine stuff.. -------------------- Your mind's a prism, not a prison
"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom." Albert Einstein |
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| usrlocal |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 03:16 AM
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The songs are rock solid, and I do so enjoy the fact that MES is getting back into his old vocal form.
I think I'll have to offset the Big Chief's rating by giving the session a 10.5/10. -------------------- Unsuitable for romantics
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| StandingInATrashcan |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 03:56 AM
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Love this song
![]() Forgive this product of my internet boredom ![]() Accuracy of lyrics is questionable Appreciate corrections to parts in parenthesis BLINDNESS And [our humans/demons] Cavalry of Calvary ![]() And not a drop of water Or paper Or paper J.W. said - walking bass, walking bass Don't forget, don't forget He expected Aristotle Onasis ![]() But instead he got Mr James Fennings from Prestwick [in Cumbria] Do you..reflect this evil? Thought of cavalry, Calvary His first appearance was on Moscow road ![]() But poster came at first At first I thought it was just a poster I was talking to Jayne Seymour [James? Seymour] Eyes wide open ![]() The neck was slightly dislocated But then I walked up the street There was a repellent plastic Said poster with a picture Do you work? I was on one leg At the top of the street There was a poster A plastic front From Moscow Road it came From Deansgate it came From Narnack Records it came ![]() ![]() I was on my way I had to be on by 9.30 I said - walking bass Paper times 2 Paper times 2 Paper everywhere and not a drop of water to be seen I said Eyes by the ocean [...] I am losing my [feet] I am losing my [feet] ![]() Everywhere I look I see a blind man I see a blind man Everywhere I look I see a... ![]() I can't get my eyes checked My blues eyes can't get checked I'm only one leg I said to poster, "When's the curfew over? I said, "Blind man, have mercy on me." I said, "Blind man, have mercy on me." Blind man have mercy on me Oh Great One I am a mere receptacle The egg tester for your sandlewood and over asserted roots ![]() In dark green Blind man have mercy on me I got a metal leg - truth Flat is the evil of Calvary and cavalry |
| kiespijn |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 03:58 AM
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-------------------- Walk back two, three and four
Stop for a rest Go back to scratch |
| fallchase |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 05:07 AM
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i think the peel session with contraflow and sparta fc was the best peel session.
-------------------- The cure was in no pill.
The Fall Fallchase MBE |
| fallfandave |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 05:34 AM
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very light version compared to stourbridge....i think played with power...this is the best track by far |
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| fallchase |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 05:39 AM
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i will believe ffd on this matter. -------------------- The cure was in no pill.
The Fall Fallchase MBE |
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| kiespijn |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 07:29 AM
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nice to hear your e-mail read out so early in the show, chris
+for visi.com/fall to get a plug there was also a message on the night from a fallfan in cannock ..wasn't you was it, fieryjack?! -------------------- Walk back two, three and four
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| mag |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 09:16 AM
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When the Dog/Elves riff kicked in I felt happy.
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| josef |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 09:41 AM
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this is possibly the best post I've ever seen on this board... -------------------- keep shtum, plaguarism infects the land
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| fallfandave |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 09:49 AM
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and ted chippington [also from the midlands] emailed peel to say he and his kids love the fall [i never knew he was a fall fan until last night] |
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| fallchase |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 10:43 AM
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who is this guy, is he a big wig? -------------------- The cure was in no pill.
The Fall Fallchase MBE |
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| Antler Heads+Tings |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 11:21 AM
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He may need a big wig these days, but he is in fact a funny stand up/music based comic.
Dry, droll and unfunny making him very funny. Last time i saw him was supporting The Fall at London Forum (Light User Tour?), his act was himself and a hand held tape deck put through the PA. Some folks thought it would be a "larf" to throw bottles at him- to which he responded along the lines of: "I can see some of you think you'd like to throw bottles at me, it doesn't bother me in fact to prove it i'll stay still for this next number so you can have a clear shot- it just makes a mess on the stage for when the main act comes on- he may feel like having a little dance and could hurt himself." He then did "She Loves You (And you know that can't be bad)"- fared better than WORLD OF LEATHER ot the BRIXTON FRIDGE (Middle Class Revolt era) who were bottled off like i've never seen. Owch! |
| fallchase |
Posted: Aug 14 2004, 11:32 AM
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Anybody like Graham Norton? he is rather odd.
-------------------- The cure was in no pill.
The Fall Fallchase MBE |
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