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NewJeruPoet - November 7, 2003 10:29 PM (GMT)
Most ACCESSIBLE FALL lp? Easiest on the ear?

The Infotainment Scan
Extricate
The Frenx Experiment
Shift Work
Code: Selfish
I am Kurious Oranj
The Light User Syndrome
Other?

Durruti - November 7, 2003 10:45 PM (GMT)
Kurious Oranj was sheer hook-ridden brilliance in the category you are talking about...

fallfandave - November 7, 2003 10:51 PM (GMT)
i wanted to vote for cotc....i refuse to vote for other....that is what all these credit card ppl r voting for

Wretched Timesheeter - November 8, 2003 12:09 AM (GMT)
Either The Unutterable or Infotainment Scan. Or... The Real New Fall LP. Not really easy on the ear, but it gives a wide enough picture of The Fall and is aggressive and tuneful (not to mention full of ideas).

Man named Joe - November 8, 2003 12:12 AM (GMT)
"Infotainment Scant" by a country mile.

Drjohnrock - November 8, 2003 02:53 PM (GMT)
I would have to say Slates. With the exception of Prole Art Threat, it could have
attracted the attention of fans of more conventional rock, with proper promotion--
at least here in America. Songs like An Older Lover, Leave The Capitol, etc. were
still The Fall but could have had wider appeal. Not that it would have gone platinum or anything, mind.

Bert - November 9, 2003 12:04 AM (GMT)
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of The Fall.

mark-E-mark - November 9, 2003 06:01 AM (GMT)
This Nation's Saving Grace?

NewJeruPoet - November 10, 2003 02:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bert @ Nov 9 2003, 12:04 PM)
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of The Fall.

What?? No way... I have that CD and I just cannot get into it.. It is not only the least accessable but the least interesting in my opinion..

I think the most accessable CDs are "Extricate", "Infotainment Scan" and "Kurious Oranj"... but if I had to choose one, "EXTRICATE"..

Every now and then you have to... EXTRICATE!

Bert - November 10, 2003 03:39 PM (GMT)
I'd say C.R.E.E.P., Oh! Brother, Draygo's Guilt, Disney's Dream Debased and Stephen's Song are all examples of the Fall at their most poppy, no doubt due to Brix's influence. Whenever I try and get people to like The Fall, I ease them in with this album...

fallfandave - November 10, 2003 03:57 PM (GMT)
I like weird n frightnin a lot.....but with tracks like bug day on it...it loses its accessible tag immediately...C.R.E.E.P., Oh! Brother, Draygo's Guilt r just bonus cd tracks anyway....not really representing the original album



where r all the msgs on fallnet?

i usually have loads to delete

:(
it's like autumn with no leaves to get out of the grids

Voxish - November 11, 2003 03:11 PM (GMT)
it seems to be a given that one's partner cannot abide the fall, for whatever reason. however, when i added 'bill is dead' to a soppy comp i did while courting the future mrs voxish she never hit the fast forward button. indeed, i only revealed t'other day that it was indeed a fall song - whereupon she looked suitably crestfallen and sheepish.

Bert - November 11, 2003 04:30 PM (GMT)
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it seems to be a given that one's partner cannot abide the fall


My girlfriend is exactly the same. Her musical tastes run the gamut from Justin Timberlake to Nickelback, so it's easy to fool her into thinking she's listening to something else. I put on The Real New Fall LP earlier and made out it was The Smiths(!), and she said it wasn't that bad. When it finished, I told her who it really was, and she said "I didn't really like it, I just didn't want to offend you" or something. I reckon her pride's getting in the way of her admitting that The Fall are good...

Wretched Timesheeter - November 11, 2003 11:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Voxish @ Nov 12 2003, 03:11 AM)
it seems to be a given that one's partner cannot abide the fall, for whatever reason.

Looks like me missus seems to be the exception that proves the rule... which makes me very lucky, obviously. :P She was really impressed with the Real New LP and even went so far as to say that MES used to be quite handsome!

fallfans - November 12, 2003 02:10 AM (GMT)
Just to be a twat.... A-sides. :banghead:

Conway - November 12, 2003 10:06 AM (GMT)
Shit-work, I reckon. <_< Mark tries to sing... proper like! :o

Bad move.

Ill-advised. :whistle:

salviati - November 12, 2003 11:55 PM (GMT)
Sh#t W##k is my least favourite Fall lp ever and I would never recommend a new listener to start with it, in fact I reckon all copies should be recalled...COTC is just about as spot on as can be, my 6 year old daughter loves 'Open the box...'my missus would never put the Fall on, she'd much rather annoy me with richard bloody ashcroft...just got the 27 points in the post today, fabuloous stuff and oh, so accessible.. ^_^

BEZENBY - November 13, 2003 12:07 AM (GMT)
it's got to be one of the early nineties releases - Shiftwork or Extricate or Infontainment...
But then again...if you're talkin about what Fall album could possibly turn potential listeners into Fall addicts (as I'm sure we all are here) then mibbe you should turn neophytes to Hip Priest and Kamerads or Palace of Swords....
B-sides got me into the fall but the above mentioned albums converted me........

gappy tooth - November 13, 2003 09:52 AM (GMT)
That's a good point, y'know.

I voted for "Shaftpork", but now I think of it, I've only ever got people to enjoy The Fall with the classicsa, no matter how obtuse they may be. Play someone "Shiftwork" & they only response you'll get is "sounds like 2nd rate indie"...except I'm sure that someone here won't stnad for that!

Eelz - November 13, 2003 10:31 AM (GMT)
depends what you mean by most accesable - as a fall fan the most accesable to me is hex enduction hour or grotesque. but then if i was to play some to my girlfriend i would probably play some of extricate or frenz or kurious orange or shift work. she wouldn't like it but then she's in to hip hop, r and b and jungle so what would she know!!!! ;)

Fionatwardle - November 13, 2003 09:19 PM (GMT)
Being new here, I thought it nice to start on inanity...I would vote for the first one Live at the Witch Trials. Pure power pop. A beautiful album. (Just call me clifford!)
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I'm better than them and I think I'm the best

fallfandave - November 13, 2003 11:05 PM (GMT)
U i know u do i not????.....it is cliff richards -_-

O'Mirror - November 17, 2003 07:33 PM (GMT)
Marshall Suite has been what my non-Fall fan friends dug on first listen. Touch Sensitive and F-oldin Money hooked 'em in, and they stayed for the ass shaking.
As far partners go, my ex girlfriend liked Marshall but hated the song(and album) Kurious Oranj, especially when Mark sings "kurious! kurious! kuriousaoranj!" over and over again. I can say without any bitterness that it is one of my all time Fall favorites.
I've just begun listening into New Real Fall LP this weekend...I think a few tracks(Mountain Energi, Sparta,Mike's Love Xexagon, Janet et al) would make good mix tape fodder, but on the whole it still seems very weird, even for a Fall album. Not a bad thing at all.
I think I shall listen to Sparta FC before every Green Bay game. It seems to bring them luck.

mypetiguana - November 19, 2003 08:54 AM (GMT)
I've only just recently got into the fall, bought the rough trade anthology, heard about 10 seconds of totally wired and fell in love, i know its not a proper album but i found it really accessible. so far i've bought the wonderful and frightening..., this nations saving grace, frenz experiment, hex enduction hour and the new one. only one i havent found accessible is the wonderful and frightening.

chrisgoodhead - November 19, 2003 09:38 AM (GMT)
I would have said Wonderful and Frightening as the most accessible album. It's not me favourite by any means but it's really poppy like someone else said. And it was the only period when The Fall got into the charts shortly after. Mind you, it probably sounds more dated than any of their other stuff. I mean, Live at the Witch Trials sounds more modern, the way music has "progressed" over the last 20 odd years.
My drummer friend who likes the flimmin' Charlatans and Ride never liked The Fall and still doesn't really but he did once say that The Marshall Suite was "mint" when I put it on in the car on the way back from London. But when it finished he reached for another Wedding Present tape... :unsure:

Dktr Hohnholz-G - November 19, 2003 10:14 PM (GMT)
arrr ... the next one.

lukie2p - December 2, 2003 02:42 AM (GMT)
I always figure it to be Grostesque. That is what I always suggest to new listeners.
Perhaps a distinction needs to be made; easiest on the ear could connote background music... something not too unsettling or jarring. Which would be most of the 90's albums
I suggest it because people may be able to pick up the country and blues stuff in it... Container Drivers, the NWRA, Gramme Friday...

salviati - December 2, 2003 10:32 AM (GMT)
Can't believe Sh##tWa#k is running away with this poll, I do have a problem with this lp.....if it'd been the 1st Fall album I'd heard, there may never've been a 2nd...
(which would please the missus no end)...anyway this poll is now superfluous, out-of-date, an ex-poll'n'all that, in view of the undoubted accessibility of the Real New Fall LP......recount :applaud: recount :applaud: recount :applaud: .....

padre_maria - December 2, 2003 11:22 AM (GMT)
Shiftwork - because everyone I knew liked and bought it, and The Fall seemed to be masters of everything at this time. It got 10/10 in the NME.

It's a funny/very to-the-point and poppy record - even the last, Mark-goes-bonkers track is listenable. (Strangely, trnflpfkacotc seems to work in reverse from the last 10 years' worth of Fall albums in that it gets tighter and more ordered as it goes on).

Having said that, people really like the Marshall Suite when I play the whole thing to them (admittedly not a particularly common occurrence).

I can't think of any Fall album that doesn't contain at least 5 instantly hummable tunes - even Cerebral Caustic. That's why I liked them in the first place.

My wife likes the Fall.

So there you go.

LittleCD - December 5, 2003 08:56 PM (GMT)
Its got to be either EXTRICATE (that got me hooked) but THE MARSHALL SUITE is utterly listenable as it crosses so many styles

Mark E Smith Made Me Cry - May 17, 2010 08:20 PM (GMT)
And the fishermen did dredge up an old poll.. I was looking for things about Shift-Work.
If I had to give Fall albums to someone with unfettered ears, and expected them to become a Fall fan, I'd give them Shift-Work and Your Future Our Clutter.

Mark E Smith Made Me Cry - May 17, 2010 08:23 PM (GMT)
What happened in 2003? This thread seems to be filled with people who hardly returned..was there a Fall fan plague or something? :lol:

rainmaster - May 18, 2010 01:11 AM (GMT)
From this list, I'll go with Code Selfish. Nothing there that sounds obtrusive to the ear, unlike Shiftwork which grates throughout. :whistle:

This poll needs updating, though. YFOC would make a real impact, it being such an easy listen, yet such an amazing album. :wub:

There must be lots of polls like this one that need re-discovering. :)

flickeringlexicon - May 18, 2010 01:17 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rainmaster @ May 17 2010, 06:11 PM)
From this list, I'll go with Code Selfish. Nothing there that sounds obtrusive to the ear, unlike Shiftwork which grates throughout. :whistle:

:devil2:

rainmaster - May 18, 2010 01:20 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ May 18 2010, 02:17 AM)
QUOTE (rainmaster @ May 17 2010, 06:11 PM)
From this list, I'll go with Code Selfish. Nothing there that sounds obtrusive to the ear, unlike Shiftwork which grates throughout.  :whistle:

:devil2:

:D

flickeringlexicon - May 18, 2010 01:26 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rainmaster @ May 17 2010, 06:20 PM)
QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ May 18 2010, 02:17 AM)
QUOTE (rainmaster @ May 17 2010, 06:11 PM)
From this list, I'll go with Code Selfish. Nothing there that sounds obtrusive to the ear, unlike Shiftwork which grates throughout.  :whistle:

:devil2:

:D

:lol:

I voted for 'Oranj.' When the most grating thing on an album is 'Bad News Girl,' we are in the realm of pop, if not actually there yet. :)

Guy Cybershy - May 18, 2010 02:23 AM (GMT)
Exticate, I thought "and therein" should have been huge. You could even understand all the words.

MOD-MOCK-GOTH - May 18, 2010 04:55 AM (GMT)
no Live 1977 :P

LA MERDE - May 18, 2010 05:19 AM (GMT)
I would say the earlier albums- the fall were way ahead of their time.

"live at the witch trials" and "dragnet" are far more modern sounding and like what young people are into these days than other Fall stuff which seems kind of dated alot of the time. :P
The more the fall tries to sound accessible and dancey I think the less they actually succeed in appealing to people.

I personally first heard Dragnet and was surprised that some songs especially like "your heart out" were not more popular as most of the album is very catchy and has tight rhythms.

Mark E Smith Made Me Cry - May 18, 2010 05:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (LA MERDE @ May 18 2010, 05:19 AM)
I would say the earlier albums- the fall were way ahead of their time.

"live at the witch trials" and "dragnet" are far more modern sounding and like what young people are into these days than other Fall stuff which seems kind of dated alot of the time. :P
The more the fall tries to sound accessible and dancey I think the less they actually succeed in appealing to people.

I personally first heard Dragnet and was surprised that some songs especially like "your heart out" were not more popular as most of the album is very catchy and has tight rhythms.

Now you mention it I can imagine current kids jumping about to a lot of early Fall, especially the singles.




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