I've heard a lot of random remarks made about the combination of the Fall and the stoned. While not a quantifiable poll, I thought it might be interesting to give people an opportunity to share what they've experienced. Some claim the Unutterable is an incredible pot record; others prefer the stripped down sound of Grotesque. It's not all about :beer:. What do YOU think?

Stick that hippie joint up yer bum and put another Fall record on... :lol:

Yeah, I guess I should have started a heroin thread. :blink:

Shift-work all the way :D

Stoner Fall, not likely -- I can't listen to the bands attempts at reggae in any state of mind.

Try Dieselhed's Chico & The Flute (2000) -- "Tag It Up"'ll make ya cry.

Well, I'm stoned more often than not frankly, so MOST of my music listening has been under the influence for the last 22 years or so.

I used to drink quite a bit but was always too busy being a drunken ass to pay much attention to music...

I've also taken probably 1000 hits of LSD in my day, not to mention psych mushrooms and mescaline. Not a brag, I just used to deal the stuff years ago. The summer I was 17 I don't think I ever came down off tripping.

Now I am diabetic and really can't drink. A beer or two, but hard liquor nearly puts me in a sugar coma.

I haven't taken acid since I was 23 or so...been about 12 years. I'd probably do shrooms again, but I don't bust my ass looking for that stuff. I'm just a smoker anymore.

So, I have no control (non-stoned) experience I can really point to for Fall listening.

But I can tell you that I listened to an awful lot of The Fall whilst trippin' my balls off. My faves for this: Wonderful and Frightening World (I was on acid first time I heard it), Hex Enduction Hour and Bend Sinister.

Ahh, the good ol' days....I remember them through a blotter darkly.

Marshall Suite, easy.

"Living Too Late" has a mellow flow to it, yessss. :P

pot is life-goes well with all music

are some albums more suitedto particular drugs?
smith and co like(d) their mushrooms/acid/speed/drink but looked down on heroin
latwt-shrooms/alcohol/speed
dragnet-shrooms/speed

first time i took an :D e :D i was worried to fuck that i'd start enjoying house music.

no fear, it just made me desperate for early fall, the scratchier the better.

Since the music itself seems to affect my brain chemistry (Fall songs will go around in my head for days and days...all that REPETITION!), it's a drug unto itself. Massive caffeine infusions augment the experience.

i dont want to sound like the health nut on this topic but i haven't smoked pot for about 3 years. When I did, i used to love Dragnet or Grotesque. I've been doing a lot of running over the last year. This really clears my head due to a surge in endorphin production. I find that in this state i enjoy listening to The Fall a lot more than when i have not been exercising. Particularly Live At The Witch Trails..I don't mean to suggest that you ask your aerobics instructor to play Rowche Rumble at your next class...

fall is the drug-addiction is not just a biochemical thing it also tekes yertime and mental energy-
how much time here
how much time thinking about it
how much time listening
do you buy the kids' new gear or the new rerease? get my drift?

and everything is beautiful on e

Am I the only person on this board who has never used any "illicit" drugs? (Tried pot once but not enough to have any real effect, never really liked the smell — no offense to those who use it.) I drink a little, but I guess I'm pretty conservative when it comes to drugs. Often the music is really good enough for me.

One time I got back from a Tom Tom Club concert and felt something like what it may feel being high, I dunno, I just remember seemingly springing up the street after that. I put on some Lee Perry at a pretty low volume, and my hearing was a bit under water after the relative loudness of the show, but the sound really glowed in a distant-yet-near way that was quite magical. Maybe second-hand smoke of various kinds altered my brain? :rolleyes:

Lots of things, music chief among them, are good for reaching altered states. It's not just drugs...they are like a short cut fuse for liftoff or something perhaps.

A little beer is the best accompaniment to Fall records.

That may even be objectively true, but did a little beer ever make you want to rip the album off the turntable and try to fuck it or melt it down and pour it in through your ear to make a brain mold?

:rolleyes:

Totally with you all the way Gorillabat. I never listen to or make music straight, and most music made without the influence of the more hallucinogenic drugs bores me.

I very seldom drink to get drunk, and I don't really get off on music if I'm drunk, except stupid singalong stuff I'd never usually touch with a bargepole. Most people I know who've made successful work (materially and aesthetically) use weed or something similar for inspiration.

The Fall for me are the ultimate THC/acid/mushrooms band. Truly trippy, without any wibbly hippy bollocks. They deconstruct the fabric of perception in the same way that hallucinogens do. Gross Chapel GB Grenadiers on acid will reveal things never heard before. I've never heard it in the same way since, even though I only tripped once to it, back in 1987.

I find that this is getting more true for me as I get older. The result is that I am listening to and making very little music these days. Oh well, at least I enjoy my job now.

A friend thought This Nation's Saving Grace was the ultimate heroin record in that they all must have been on heroin to produce it.

It's too tight - hard drugs and cider mate.. But not junk..

Don't think so.

You're not the only one.

Andy

My pot-smoking days are way behind me. I'm finding that getting old is fucking up my brain enough (memory lapses, etc) without me needing to help it along. Of course, my memory lapses may indeed be due to what Norman Mailer once referred to as 'the wages of pot'......

Umm...what were we talking about anyway?

How I listen to fall albums:
first time: while doing something, like reading
second time: stoned, watching i tunes. i can't usually just listen to a cd, i need to be doing something else, but with the fall i need full concentration my second time, so then during the rest of the times I listen to their albums, I know what’s coming and what to look forward to. And I have I tunes on cause its just so fucking trippy and works amazingly with the fall.

hmm this doesn't have to do with the fall, but everyone ive played Hail to the Thief for while stoned has gone mad over it. its really really awesome to listen to stoned.

Top unlikely great-when-stoned records=

B B King Live At The Regal
Phil Spector's christmas album