Title: Slippy Floor CD single
Description: 'An Action Records 2009 Tour Special'
Stephen - November 21, 2009 11:02 AM (GMT)
rainmaster - November 21, 2009 11:06 AM (GMT)
Torn between Slippy Floor and Hot Cake, both excellent.
Definately not Strangetown.
Snowy - November 21, 2009 11:46 AM (GMT)
Will vote later, but Hot Cake so far.
PeterL - November 21, 2009 10:20 PM (GMT)
Both Slippy Floor and Hot Cake are fantastic, but Slippy Floor probably just about edges it. A new golden age for the Fall? Quite possibly. Things are definitely looking v. promising for the new album.
Opel - November 22, 2009 11:24 AM (GMT)
why cant i buy this on i tunes ?
bournemouthrunner - November 22, 2009 04:23 PM (GMT)
Kapitän - November 22, 2009 05:46 PM (GMT)
imaglasgowmanmyself - November 23, 2009 11:26 PM (GMT)
imaglasgowmanmyself - November 23, 2009 11:40 PM (GMT)
Mr. Marshall - November 24, 2009 02:28 PM (GMT)
Listened to it a few times and Slippy Floor it is. It's quite odd, isn't it?
Buy Kurious! - November 24, 2009 02:30 PM (GMT)
"You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub:
Big Crashing Beat - November 24, 2009 02:43 PM (GMT)
I am actually a big fan of the production work on Strangetown.
Mr. Marshall - November 24, 2009 05:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 03:30 PM) |
"You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub: |
It has a similar feel to Oh Yeah by Can. -_-
Buy Kurious! - November 24, 2009 07:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mr. Marshall @ Nov 24 2009, 05:44 PM) |
| QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 03:30 PM) | "You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub: |
It has a similar feel to Oh Yeah by Can. -_-
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Does it? :wacko:
psychocandy - November 24, 2009 07:43 PM (GMT)
slippy floor is my fave, good single.
Hanley Played a Fender P - November 24, 2009 08:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big Crashing Beat @ Nov 24 2009, 02:43 PM) |
| I am actually a big fan of the production work on Strangetown. |
We're hanging in there with 2 votes Greame.
It's a bit like the UK entry at the Eurovision Song Contest.
SonofAlways - November 24, 2009 08:37 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Big Crashing Beat @ Nov 25 2009, 02:43 AM) |
| I am actually a big fan of the production work on Strangetown. |
"Produced by Grant Showbiz."
:lol:
townieman - November 24, 2009 09:19 PM (GMT)
After a fair few listens it's definitely Hot Cake for me. Slippy Floor may well be a grower, but it's taking a while.
Safe to assume these are not the album versions? Given Slippy Floor is the "Mark Mix" and Hot Cake is "Part 2" and the lyrics are taken from other songs.
Mr. Marshall - November 25, 2009 09:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 08:07 PM) |
| QUOTE (Mr. Marshall @ Nov 24 2009, 05:44 PM) | | QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 03:30 PM) | "You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub: |
It has a similar feel to Oh Yeah by Can. -_-
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Does it? :wacko:
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You mean you can't hear it? :P
Buy Kurious! - November 25, 2009 09:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mr. Marshall @ Nov 25 2009, 09:49 AM) |
| QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 08:07 PM) | | QUOTE (Mr. Marshall @ Nov 24 2009, 05:44 PM) | | QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 03:30 PM) | "You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub: |
It has a similar feel to Oh Yeah by Can. -_-
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Does it? :wacko:
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You mean you can't hear it? :P
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Slippy Floor (the music) reminds me of someone like Groucho Marx "dancing" on a slippery surface, desperately trying to stay on his feet. Oh Yeah reminds me of a long car journey at night... on the way to CERTAIN DEATH! :o
So, no. -_-
Basmikel - November 25, 2009 09:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Mr. Marshall @ Nov 25 2009, 05:44 AM) |
| QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 03:30 PM) | "You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub: |
It has a similar feel to Oh Yeah by Can. -_-
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I've only heard that Can track once & can't find the album. It's on Tago Mago, right? I remember thinking it sounded like an older Fall track when I heard it, but can't remember which one. My weak memory tells me it was Damo Suzuki, but that may very well be the title playing tricks on me. Anyone?
rainmaster - November 25, 2009 09:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Basmikel @ Nov 25 2009, 09:09 PM) |
| QUOTE (Mr. Marshall @ Nov 25 2009, 05:44 AM) | | QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Nov 24 2009, 03:30 PM) | "You might like to scoff and guffaw"
Love it. :wub: |
It has a similar feel to Oh Yeah by Can. -_-
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I've only heard that Can track once & can't find the album. It's on Tago Mago, right? I remember thinking it sounded like an older Fall track when I heard it, but can't remember which one. My weak memory tells me it was Damo Suzuki, but that may very well be the title playing tricks on me. Anyone?
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Yes, Damo Suzuki is based around Oh Yeah, from Tago Mago.
chachacha - November 26, 2009 08:03 PM (GMT)
This is fantastic...I just spent 4 quid to save myself 12 on what will be a piece of shit LP
chrisgoodhead - November 26, 2009 08:10 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (chachacha @ Nov 27 2009, 08:03 AM) |
| This is fantastic...I just spent 4 quid to save myself 12 on what will be a piece of shit LP |
You don't like it?
I think Slippy Floor and Hot Cake both sound better after repeated listens, although I could do with a better quality recording for Strangetown. Terrific version of the song though. I like the relentless heavy riff at the beginning.
Heavy relentless riffing I suspect has become a bit of a feature. It was in Imperial Wax Solvent. Maybe even more so in this next one, although I can't see how that is sonically possible!
chachacha - November 26, 2009 10:06 PM (GMT)
Its kinda lame but my impression was influenced by this: I got the CD last night so played it in the car on the way to a Lightning Bolt gg.......and on the way home I could hear nothing...nah, kidding, it was just tame in comparison to what I had just witnessed But for relentless heavy riffing 'the Bolt ' did it for me last night
Snowy - November 27, 2009 11:01 PM (GMT)
Hot Cake.
After 10 plays of both, I am sticking with HC. I like both, but prefer Hot Cake. Slippy Floor is more one dimensional. Hot Cake has the great bass riff, the treatments and better energy.
Mere Pseud. - November 28, 2009 01:33 PM (GMT)
Slippy Floor. I'm 95% sure.
Cleanville Tziabatz - November 29, 2009 05:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Opel @ Nov 22 2009, 07:24 AM) |
| why cant i buy this on i tunes ? |
or eMusic. Get wd tha timez Smitty!!
Drjohnrock - November 29, 2009 06:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Nov 29 2009, 01:04 AM) |
| QUOTE (Opel @ Nov 22 2009, 07:24 AM) | | why cant i buy this on i tunes ? |
or eMusic. Get wd tha timez Smitty!!
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What a brilliant suggestion--Mark E. Smith should become a technology-savvy yuppie, or at least make sure his "product" is in a format pleasing to same. I hope you can make it to one of MES' pubs before you go to the Big Troll Home In The Sky, Cloneville, so you can personally make your suggetion to him--I would give anything to be there myself to see him shove a pint glass up your nose.
Yes, you're ass-backwards as usual. In so many ways, the times have never caught up to MES!
worthless recluse - December 3, 2009 06:52 PM (GMT)
Hot Cake easily, nicely chaotic! Strangetown and Slippy Floor about equal.
dj hollerbusch - December 3, 2009 06:54 PM (GMT)
flickeringlexicon - December 4, 2009 06:38 PM (GMT)
I've gotta say "Slippy Floor" is the strongest (and best-produced) of the 3 tracks. I'm actually a big fan of 'Seminal', and this single reminds me of 'Side One' of that, in a way. You have your balls-to-the wall rocker (Slippy Floor/Deadbeat Descendant), your quietly mysterious groove track (Hot Cake/H.O.W.) and your horrifically recorded live number (Strangtown/Pinball Machine)... this is a single, so there's no room for a 'Squid Law' or 'Mollusc'. Strange analogy, I know, but it works for me.
All in all I'd say this is very promising. Slippy Floor shows a level of energy that you would hardly expect at this point, and it is refreshing and arresting. Hot Cake is one of those Ace tracks you can listen to forever and never hear everything. I love Strangtown as a song, and the Fall's arrangement of it, but this recording and performance is too messed up for me to enjoy, although I like that MES quotes Junk Man in it... B)
Basmikel - December 5, 2009 12:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (flickeringlexicon @ Dec 5 2009, 06:38 AM) |
| I've gotta say "Slippy Floor" is the strongest (and best-produced) of the 3 tracks. I'm actually a big fan of 'Seminal', and this single reminds me of 'Side One' of that, in a way. (...)I love Strangtown as a song, and the Fall's arrangement of it, but this recording and performance is too messed up for me to enjoy, although I like that MES quotes Junk Man in it... B) |
...which he did in Squid Law too, before they covered it, to keep your anal-ogy going.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kUMx69vNrs
Opel - December 5, 2009 01:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cleanville Tziabatz @ Nov 29 2009, 05:04 PM) |
| QUOTE (Opel @ Nov 22 2009, 07:24 AM) | | why cant i buy this on i tunes ? |
or eMusic. Get wd tha timez Smitty!!
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:girly:
MidlandsMentality - December 7, 2009 07:17 AM (GMT)
I find the single a disappointment coming after IWS. It sounds half-baked and doesn't gel. I hope the album versions are different and more considered because there are seeds of promise in both songs.
delmore - December 11, 2009 07:54 PM (GMT)
I like it all but want something better from The Fall.
Drjohnrock - December 12, 2009 03:43 AM (GMT)
I voted for Slippy Floor, with its Frankenstein monster-like pastiches at the beginning and end reminding me of Putta Block. I'm not ready to rate it that highly yet, though. Still, good to hear the prominence of Greenway's guitar--maybe MES will let him step more into the forefront.
There's a lot going on in Hot Cake, but I haven't listened enough to dig it all out--or maybe I just can't be arsed.
I agree with what one or two others have said about Strangtown not sounding like a board tape--a board tape would probably have sounded better. And while I'm certainly not someone who demands crystal clear sound that's the aural equivalent of a Viewmaster slide, I'm getting a bit tired of Marky's "shit sound for the sake of shit sound" attitude. Just because it sounds like crap doesn't make it Dragnet. What I can hear of it sounds like a good performance. Elena adds sythesizer squirts.
While there're some promising moments on this stopgap/MES pub fund release, I'm taking a wait and see attitude toward the next album. It might be really good, or it might be like a Tony DeFranco and the DeFranco Family Reunion, only more poorly recorded. We'll see.
Craig - December 12, 2009 10:39 PM (GMT)
The Krautrockisms of that Strangetown versions are head and shoulders over the rest of it for mine. And even then it's not that great.
Man, I must be missing something. Slippy and HC are just more of the same one dimensional garagey arse we've had for the last two or three albums aren't they?
:(
Buy Kurious! - December 12, 2009 11:31 PM (GMT)
It;s the same old shit we've had from this band for the last 30 years.
They must think we're mugs. :angry:
Dice Man - December 16, 2009 02:20 PM (GMT)
Needed some spins to decide. Today the country blues thing on the end of Slippy Floor almost made me vote for it, but my first fave was Hot Cake and still is. For the synths, the bass, the backing vocals & the rockabilly feel of it. I remember one of the recent live versions being fantastic, with a long electronic, slightly psychedelic keyboard intro. Dunno which gig it was, tbh.