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Title: 277 Frenz Experiment vs Wonderful & Frightening


Conway - July 1, 2008 05:30 AM (GMT)
Please vote for your favourite of these 2 albums and tell us why.

Mere Pseud. - July 1, 2008 12:00 PM (GMT)
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of... possesses an extremely fitting title whereas The Frenz Experiment is a very good and solid record, but I certainly wouldn't call it experimental.

TWAFWO for me

Dice Man - July 1, 2008 12:13 PM (GMT)
I got sentimental feelings for The Frenz Experiment. But are the group about sentimentality? Wonderful And Frightening... for me. Elves, I say! Bug Day!! Disney's Dream Debased!!!

Hotel Amnesia - July 1, 2008 12:35 PM (GMT)
I have been loving Frenz but Wonderful is wonderful and I class it as a heavy weight even though it sits outside the top 6.

Kapitän - July 1, 2008 12:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mere Pseud. @ Jul 1 2008, 01:00 PM)
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of... possesses an extremely fitting title whereas The Frenz Experiment is a very good and solid record, but I certainly wouldn't call it experimental.

TWAFWO for me

I know that's maybe not your point, but what's so experimental about TWAFWO? It's got the token lo-fi track (Bug Day), but apart from that it's pretty straight forward IMO.

Nothing wrong with that though. One of my main reasons for loving Frenz, is the way it's quietly assured - not needing to scream and shout and be 'weird' to get it's point across. Just a stonking collection of songs played by a confident band.

To me, both albums are stylistically similar, but overall I prefer both the music and lyrics on Frenz.

Mere Pseud. - July 1, 2008 04:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kapitän @ Jul 1 2008, 02:49 PM)
QUOTE (Mere Pseud. @ Jul 1 2008, 01:00 PM)
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of... possesses an extremely fitting title whereas The Frenz Experiment is a very good and solid record, but I certainly wouldn't call it experimental.

TWAFWO for me

I know that's maybe not your point, but what's so experimental about TWAFWO? It's got the token lo-fi track (Bug Day), but apart from that it's pretty straight forward IMO.

The experimental is now the conventional. ;)

I wouldn't call TWAFWO experimental either. However after PBL it marked a distinct change in direction, not only due to Brix joining the group. If for better or worse is another matter. For example something like Disney's Dream Debased had never appeared on a Fall record before. Lay Of The Land remains one the very best album openers IMO. Just listen to the dynamic entrance by the instruments. And then there are personal all time faves like Slang King and Craigness.

TFE immediately appealed to me in 1988 as a collection of stable songs without offering anything really new.

Of course hearing every Fall album apart from LATWT shortly after its release provides you with a different kind of perspective which doesn't necessarily have to be the best.

Kapitän - July 1, 2008 05:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mere Pseud. @ Jul 1 2008, 05:51 PM)
Of course hearing every Fall album apart from LATWT shortly after its release provides you with a different kind of perspective which doesn't necessarily have to be the best.

That's probably true.

That's why you should all listen to people like me - who got all the albums in the space of 14 months. No nostalgia, just a trustworthy analysis of each album's objective qualities... :P ;)

None of that 'I had my first wank to Dragnet' bollocks... :lol:

snoweyuk - July 1, 2008 07:04 PM (GMT)
Frenz, Romans, Countrymen

Vote for Frenz.

Its better than the version of WAFW I define, the original release.

jesuschristinreverse - July 1, 2008 07:53 PM (GMT)
probably my two favorite fall albums.
gotta go with wonderful and frightening, but it hurts to vote against frenz, especially as it's struggling in this album competition.

Neal Cassady - July 1, 2008 07:56 PM (GMT)
There are no big shots on the rock and even if there were, Frenz would not be amongst them...

with or without the bonus tracks, still voting for Wonderful and Frightening.

killerpup - July 1, 2008 08:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kapitän @ Jul 2 2008, 05:07 AM)
QUOTE (Mere Pseud. @ Jul 1 2008, 05:51 PM)
Of course hearing every Fall album apart from LATWT shortly after its release provides you with a different kind of perspective which doesn't necessarily have to be the best.

That's probably true.

That's why you should all listen to people like me - who got all the albums in the space of 14 months. No nostalgia, just a trustworthy analysis of each album's objective qualities... :P ;)

None of that 'I had my first wank to Dragnet' bollocks... :lol:

EXACTLY. Objectivity is the name of the game, friends. A bipartisan look! A neutral observer to tell it to you straight. And I dear, friends, am here to tell you the winner of this match and the album most deserving of your vote is The Real N--

Wait. What are we voting on?

Oh.

Out of these two, Frenz easy.

Yes, friends, vote for FRENZ! It's way better than the non bonus track version of Wonderful and Frightening.

Mere Pseud. - July 2, 2008 05:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kapitän @ Jul 1 2008, 07:07 PM)
QUOTE (Mere Pseud. @ Jul 1 2008, 05:51 PM)
Of course hearing every Fall album apart from LATWT shortly after its release provides you with a different kind of perspective which doesn't necessarily have to be the best.

That's probably true.

That's why you should all listen to people like me - who got all the albums in the space of 14 months. No nostalgia, just a trustworthy analysis of each album's objective qualities... :P ;)

None of that 'I had my first wank to Dragnet' bollocks... :lol:

So now it's 'I had my latest wank to Imperial Wax Solvent' (noncompetitive). :blink:

twinz2z - July 2, 2008 05:10 PM (GMT)
Tracks I would leave out for being non-essential are,
carry-bag man,
get a hotel,
victoria,
in these times,
bugday,
That leaves 6 from frenz and 8 from original Wonderful and Frighteningly good world of the Fall.

elvischomsky - July 2, 2008 11:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mere Pseud. @ Jul 2 2008, 12:00 AM)
The Wonderful And Frightening World Of... possesses an extremely fitting title whereas The Frenz Experiment is a very good and solid record, but I certainly wouldn't call it experimental.

TWAFWO for me

Very true.
TWAFWOTF does very strange - but pleasurable things to me, that I don't get from any other album by anyone.

damoncreed - July 3, 2008 01:54 AM (GMT)
TFE! TFE! TFE! TFE! TFE! Make gang way for TFE! It's becoming a sysyphean task supporting TFE.

Conway - July 3, 2008 09:38 AM (GMT)
Hmm. Had to stop and think about this one too. Because I don't really like either of these very much. Went for Frenz. But actually indifferent.

a la bowie - July 4, 2008 02:43 AM (GMT)
Oh a tricky bugger but went for Frenz which two minutes later was deemed by my brain to be the wrong choice.

So voted for Frenz but Wonderful and Frightening is the better album. :blink:

Buy Kurious! - July 8, 2008 12:18 AM (GMT)
twafwotf

Conway - July 8, 2008 10:09 AM (GMT)
Poll closed.




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