Title: Imperial Wax Solvent: best album since...?
worthless recluse - May 19, 2008 06:06 PM (GMT)
The new Fall album has been widely hailed as a RETURN TO FORM. Some fans have even declared it superior to their legendary 1982 opus, Hex Enduction Hour.* But what level of hyperbole are you prepared to use to describe its greatness? How far back into the mists of time must one go to find a Fall recording of similar or greater quality?
NB: the official semi-live albums (Totale's, Seminal, 27 Points, 2G+2, Interim) have been included so as to accommodate the expression of even the most outrageous opinions!
*Not really
imaglasgowmanmyself - May 19, 2008 07:08 PM (GMT)
since code selfish maybee
snoweyuk - May 19, 2008 07:15 PM (GMT)
RNFLP
This is kind of a harsh poll really given that RNFLP is, for a band's 24th studio LP quite extraordinarily good (some people disagree for some reason I can't put my finger on). So I expect it to show that the biggest number of votes will be for RNFLP.
This makes it look like its only better than the two previous studio LPs, which rather covers up the fact that its probably better than about 50% of the previous studio output.
SonofAlways - May 19, 2008 07:30 PM (GMT)
It's better than exactly one LP.
Put another way, there are 26 LPs that are better.
Talking about this record makes me vaguely depressed.
Smudger - May 19, 2008 09:02 PM (GMT)
I won't be drawn on comparing it for now.
It's a cracking album , I'm very pleased I bought it and it's getting played again and again.
rainmaster - May 19, 2008 11:05 PM (GMT)
Went with Unutterable - IWS SHOULD be best since RNFLP, but the latter seems to be getting dated rather too quickly of late (maybe I've listened to it too much - I don't know)
IWS just seems to be all Unutterable was plus the anarchy of AYAMW - an excellent compromise, I think! :)
dj hollerbusch - May 20, 2008 12:58 AM (GMT)
of course the best since the latest one, what else?
dj hollerbusch - May 20, 2008 12:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (SonofAlways @ May 20 2008, 07:30 AM) |
Talking about this record makes me vaguely depressed. |
:cry2:
REX - May 20, 2008 02:13 AM (GMT)
This is a good poll. :applaud:
I voted for the Unutterable. In many ways it sounds like it could have been a continuation from that point, instead of the creatively anemic detour through Garage Rock NYC.
But who voted for Witch Trials? :lol:
GraemeLovesPinkLady - May 20, 2008 02:36 AM (GMT)
Better than Hex is wild hyperbole, but best since Hex is eminently maintainable. Most consistent since TNSG, definitely.
Kapitän - May 20, 2008 09:19 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (snoweyuk @ May 19 2008, 08:15 PM) |
RNFLP
This is kind of a harsh poll really given that RNFLP is, for a band's 24th studio LP quite extraordinarily good (some people disagree for some reason I can't put my finger on). So I expect it to show that the biggest number of votes will be for RNFLP.
This makes it look like its only better than the two previous studio LPs, which rather covers up the fact that its probably better than about 50% of the previous studio output. |
My thoughts exactly.
It's better than the last 2, but not as good as RNFLP in my opinion. But, at least for the time being, it sounds better than several albums both from the 80's and 90's.
petehine - May 20, 2008 12:47 PM (GMT)
WAFW. I'm very pleased with this one indeed.
twinz2z - May 20, 2008 02:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (REX @ May 20 2008, 02:13 PM) |
This is a good poll. :applaud:
I voted for the Unutterable. In many ways it sounds like it could have been a continuation from that point, instead of the creatively anemic detour through Garage Rock NYC.
But who voted for Witch Trials? :lol: |
It was I,
because its better than LATWT, so its the best since, :rolleyes:
stop making since.
mik - May 21, 2008 09:35 PM (GMT)
flipper - May 23, 2008 06:15 AM (GMT)
I prefer FHR to IWS, because although the bad tracks on FHR are worse than the bad ones on IWS, the best tracks are better than the highlights on IWS, which I think swings it in FHR's favour - or something like that. :blink:
Hex En hour - May 23, 2008 09:34 AM (GMT)
Best since Frenz, just love it, Tommy Shooter and STSR top tunes, love 50 year old man
Three legged black grey hog - May 23, 2008 11:48 AM (GMT)
I listened to it immediately after the first disc of the Peel sessions last night and it was able to hold its head up high, which is no mean achievement. I'd have to concur with what REX says above re. the Unutterable and the creatively anaemic detour.
Bagrec - May 23, 2008 01:33 PM (GMT)
After a good few listens - I reckon it's their best for a decade, at least!
Hurrah, I'm a fan again!
worthless recluse - May 23, 2008 06:30 PM (GMT)
Who voted for Totale's Turns? :huh:
duckpin236 - May 24, 2008 12:51 PM (GMT)
Not Me! & I'm not going to. Being a fan means[to me] not to have to analyze the albums....I thoroughly enjoyed the last two: I mean The Fall even put life into Merle "Effing" Haggard and Mama didn't cry either....but this one is a good one in its own way.
By the way, thanks to all those who put the lyrics up so soon....I find I like the albums even more if I know what being sung :lol: [whoda thunk? :blink: ]
rainmaster - May 24, 2008 01:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (duckpin236 @ May 25 2008, 12:51 AM) |
| .I find I like the albums even more if I know what being sung :lol: [whoda thunk? :blink: ] |
Just 'cos you know whats being sung doesn't necessarily mean you know what it's all about ;)
imaglasgowmanmyself - May 25, 2008 07:55 PM (GMT)
definately the best since the last
worthless recluse - May 28, 2008 06:47 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (imaglasgowmanmyself @ May 25 2008, 08:55 PM) |
| definately the best since the last |
Don't say anything that you'll be embarrassed by in the future, now! :lol:
johnnymills - June 2, 2008 10:00 PM (GMT)
the more i play the real fall lp the more i find
imperial wax solvent although the best album since the above i think i have fully realised(maybe)
iws good but will it sustain interest
killerpup - June 3, 2008 03:42 PM (GMT)
RNF of course. But going by twinz2z logic, I'd say Frenz. Can't beat anything before that, but can quite a few after. Revisit in three years.
@Rex
I'm on to you... :devil:
grottyspawn - July 23, 2008 06:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (snoweyuk @ May 20 2008, 07:15 AM) |
RNFLP
This is kind of a harsh poll really given that RNFLP is, for a band's 24th studio LP quite extraordinarily good (some people disagree for some reason I can't put my finger on). So I expect it to show that the biggest number of votes will be for RNFLP.
This makes it look like its only better than the two previous studio LPs, which rather covers up the fact that its probably better than about 50% of the previous studio output. |
What he said :D
Daggerfall96 - August 5, 2008 09:03 AM (GMT)
Reformation had a great line-up, and was a fascinating studio interpretation of their (at the time) recent live shows, with added pop tunes that came out of nowhere. As always, I'm still coming to terms with it.
Mark doesnt consistently win me over this decade, but it's great to see/hear him back on that ARC again.
Stuie - August 5, 2008 02:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (snoweyuk @ May 19 2008, 03:15 PM) |
RNFLP
This is kind of a harsh poll really given that RNFLP is, for a band's 24th studio LP quite extraordinarily good (some people disagree for some reason I can't put my finger on). So I expect it to show that the biggest number of votes will be for RNFLP.
This makes it look like its only better than the two previous studio LPs, which rather covers up the fact that its probably better than about 50% of the previous studio output. |
Yeah - if it weren't for that I probably would have gone with Info.
Hanley Played a Fender P - August 5, 2008 08:29 PM (GMT)
It's on a par with FHR.
RPTLC would have wiped the floor with it with better production.
And that's that.
DJAsh - August 5, 2008 10:12 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Hanley Played a Fender P @ Aug 6 2008, 08:29 AM) |
It's on a par with FHR.
RPTLC would have wiped the floor with it with better production.
And that's that. |
RPTLC would have wiped the floor with it with better production.
Most notably on Systematic Abuse
Neal Cassady - August 6, 2008 01:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DJAsh @ Aug 5 2008, 10:12 PM) |
| QUOTE (Hanley Played a Fender P @ Aug 6 2008, 08:29 AM) | It's on a par with FHR.
RPTLC would have wiped the floor with it with better production.
And that's that. |
RPTLC would have wiped the floor with it with better production.
Most notably on Systematic Abuse
|
If you two spent less time wiping floors with the thing, I'm sure it would sound better :rolleyes:
IWS is up there with the best from recent years, if I was really pushed hard I would say best since Levitate. But dont push me... you wont like me when I'm angry...
RepoMan - August 6, 2008 03:31 AM (GMT)
I think it's better than Reformation, but without sounding harsh, I don't think that was too difficult.
Is it better than FHR? Too close for me to decide. I think you could make a case for IWS.
Is it better than RNFLP(COTC)? No chance.
Hence, I voted for RNFLP.
Mid To Late Thirties - August 6, 2008 03:44 AM (GMT)