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Title: Best Live versions
Description: of tracks from reformation and imperial


marvell78 - April 15, 2008 05:19 PM (GMT)
anybody want to make suggestions?

(afer reading hanleys comments on gas boilers selection)

might collate posts and get a best of live


twinz2z - April 15, 2008 05:56 PM (GMT)

Buy Kurious! - April 15, 2008 06:03 PM (GMT)
Dunno if there's examples anywhere but Brick Lane 06 (2nd night I think) is the best Reformation I've ever heard...extraordinary!!!!
And the 'Blindness' played at the last Hammersmith Palais gig is immense! Dunno if the sound is fucked-up coz of recording constrictions, but whatever created that sound I don't care...it's absolutely mindblowing (esp. the guitar around 2:20)!!! :thumbsup:
I was there, but I was so pissed that night I can't remember a bloody thing.

I'd be interested in any versions that are better than these two...! :o

On Edit: whoops; I just realised you meant RPLTC and IWS! :ohdear: Still, that Blindness is incredible! Hopefully the Palais CD will be out late-08!

SonofAlways - April 15, 2008 06:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Apr 16 2008, 06:03 AM)
Dunno if there's examples anywhere but Brick Lane 06 (2nd night I think) is the best Reformation I've ever heard...extraordinary!!!!


That one is on the Mud On The Ground comp. It is indeed fantastic. :)

DJAsh - April 15, 2008 07:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SonofAlways @ Apr 16 2008, 06:11 AM)
QUOTE (Buy Kurious! @ Apr 16 2008, 06:03 AM)
Dunno if there's examples anywhere but Brick Lane 06 (2nd night I think) is the best Reformation I've ever heard...extraordinary!!!!


That one is on the Mud On The Ground comp. It is indeed fantastic. :)

Could anyone spare me a copy of this?

I'm a bit of a dolt when it comes to downloading and copying etc

PM's welcome. Thanks

Hanley Played a Fender P - April 15, 2008 07:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (marvell78 @ Apr 15 2008, 05:19 PM)
anybody want to make suggestions?

(afer reading hanleys comments on gas boilers selection)

might collate posts and get a best of live

Impossible task. Stefan and Conway would be a good source, but they keep very quiet about such a sensitive subject. Bob Ecclescake would also know, but he was sectioned recently due to over exposure.

I’ve listened to perverse amounts of live recordings over the last couple of years, but as Dime ‘Stanley Gibbons type Stamp Collectors’ will tell you, rarely grab anyone else’s (not Consortium) live shows. If a real nice recording comes up like Pike’s efforts, then I do make an exemption.

Reason is that it than it can make you go a bit ga-ga.

However, there is a simple rule about ‘the best ever live version’ of a Fall song.

Basically, it’s always performed by the line up that wrote it. Blindness peaked with Ben, Steve and Spencer, and that’s the end of that. Just listen to a version of this from the new Brits, The Yanks, and then the guys who originally nailed it. Trafford wrote that bass line with a Boss overdrive pedal at his feet. End of subject.

Reformation. Pete has never grasped the subtle guitar riff that Tim mastered, wrapping himself around that weird Fender was Reformation, and of course it needs a bassist with a beard and hat. Listen to Brighton Pavilion and the Aberdeen gigs from last year. End of subject again I think.

The new songs belong to the new line up. They’ll always play them better than anyone else.

A great live recording has to have the mic lobbed in the crowd, and the sound of the same mic being dumped on the floor a few times. No better Fall sound that MES dropping a £200 Shure mic on the deck.

No better sound than The Fall live.

Go and grab some.


Billybigbananas - April 15, 2008 09:09 PM (GMT)
I'll nominate Exeter Phoenix 27/03/07 as best "Systematic Abuse" - even better than the Brick Lane version.

Hanley Played a Fender P - April 15, 2008 09:29 PM (GMT)
Our next Dime posting features a 'bonus feature' un-circulated version of The Boss.


Billybigbananas - April 15, 2008 09:33 PM (GMT)
I really liked The Boss, shame it never went any further.

marvell78 - April 15, 2008 10:09 PM (GMT)
when i said best of meant just an imaginary one and not a real release

but take your point about who wrote it/who plays it

always felt though that ben wasn't the best gutarist in the world (not that that really matters but..) and that blindness (should include this in the thread since it features so prominently in the sets now) was definitley up for grabs once the bass and drums were nailed?

bit of a nuisance that the 'extension city' versions aren't annotated (no idea where some of the come from) but do appreciate what is being made available on it

SonofAlways - April 15, 2008 11:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (marvell78 @ Apr 16 2008, 10:09 AM)
bit of a nuisance that the 'extension city' versions aren't annotated (no idea where some of the come from) but do appreciate what is being made available on it

Click on the small "comments" link at the bottom of the post and the source gigs are listed.

twinz2z - April 16, 2008 06:50 PM (GMT)
Just listened to 'Blindness' 'Munich' 2004.
Pretty damn good.
What happened to 'Hungry Freaks Daddy'?
Somebody more musically minded will probably tell me its the same as one of the IWS, tracks, but I liked it.

twinz2z - April 20, 2008 01:01 PM (GMT)
Somebody had some kind of ojection to the yanks, a while back,
Im still undecided, I mean this is pretty,-----




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