OK the subtitle is near patronising perhaps, as many collectors will be aware that Rod (and the Faces) did make some classics, and some near classic albums too.

However some will write him off the same way they would anyone past their prime or those who - according to Greil Marcus - 'betrayed their roots'.

Anyway I started listening to 'I Wish It Would Rain' (not quite as good as the Reading Festival version from '73, but close) and I'd Rather Go Blind on this show here -

http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/dt/rod-...0149-37167.html

...and it reminded how good Rod is at his best.

And there was no Rod Stewart thread in the index, not even a Faces one. :o

Thought it was about time...

:)

my mom would agree with you on that.

Please see Lulu thread for gist.
However, a couple of early classics; Maggie Mae & you wear it well (fail to redeem)

Sort-of quite like things such as Stay, Cindy Incidentally, Pool Hall Richard, You Can Make Me Dance Sing or Anything... and a few others. 'Good raunch' I would describe it as. Rod had a good rock/soul voice til he went too mainstream and made a series of vile pop records that can't quite redeem the early stuff.

I didnt think you could ruin a Tom Waits track until I heard Rod do Downtown Train. Blah! :sick:

I like Downtown Train, me. :)

Others I like, off the top of my head...

Country Comforts (billions of times better than Elt's leaden original)
Cut Across Shorty (better than Cochran's original I reckon)
Don't Want to Discuss it (like Brad suggested, a good raunch here)
I'm Losing You (ditto)
Mandolin Wind (simply beautiful)
Handbags and Gladrags (the best version, Stereophonics ruined it, and Chris Farlowe's was good, but not this good)
Dirty Old Town (evocative)
Mine For Me (good version of Macca song, again evocative)
First Cut Is The Deepest (Emotional. Good stuff! different to but as good as Cat Stevens' original :) )
I Don't Want To Talk About It (the best version)
Tonight's the Night (schmaltz but great)
Reason To Believe (again, the best version - see whatsisname Hornby's essay in the Chris Roberts book 'Idle Worship' - it also includes a contribution from MES - about Rod being the master interpreter).
I Wish I was Home Tonight (light but wistful relaxing Rod pop)
My Way Of Giving (once more the best version)
To Love Somebody (good cover)
In A Broken Dream (yearning psych)
Angel (better than Hendrix's version)
Hotlegs( more good raunch :) ).

:devil2:

PS yes, I do love Cindy Incidentally, put the Memphis Tennessee riff to much better use :)

Rod Stewart's problem was that his natural sentimental streak -- the side of him that adores Al Jolson -- came to the fore in 1975 and soon completely dominated his work. And at exactly the same time, he chose to begin working with a group of legendary American soul and R&B musicians (Steve Cropper, Duck Dunn and others) who had all passed their prime and become prize cliche-merchants. And Rod was too much of a fan to see it.

I like his sentimental side tho.

His 'rediscovering' of songs from the 30's in recent years I actually found quite refreshing. He had hinted at this direction as far back as 72 when he recorded stuff like Every Time We Say Goodbye (not released til years later tho) and the lovely country number 'What Made Milwaukee Famous, Made a Loser Out Of Me (actually released without his blessing at the time, but good on his record company there i say).

:girl2:

I don't know much about Rod, except that there was this controversy about his nose. And that there's been a lot of good covers of "do ya think i'm sexy": Tiny Tim, The Revolting Cocks, Paris Hilton, ... :mellow:

Does nowt for me except the odd giggle at some of his outfits......
:D

:o I can only presume you've never heard the Danny Whitten/Crazy Horse original.

There's nothing good about Rod Stewart or what he does.

That is where you are wrong. :o :D

Yes I have heard the original too.

i always thought that this was rod's version not tom waits i never knew waits did this before tom waits

A succinct and brilliant observation. Why sum up what can just be said...

Rod the Mod was fine until he recorded Sailing and it got played on the radio fourteen million times.

Is it just me or has Rod appeared on Parkinson more than any other guest (even Billy Connolly)?

but u would surely agree that Rod's version is nowhere near as good as Tom's original, n'est pas?

plz plz plz say yes...or else. :devil2:

Forgive me if I'm being simplistic, or whether, indeed, I seem simple. Or indeed forgive me because it's christmas. :D

Rod can *sing*.

I think it was Mr Agreeable (the brilliant caricatured drunken crazed critic in Melody Maker's back pages in the 90's) who said he didn't like listening to a pissed up tramp ranting, alluding to Waits' style.

Don't get me wrong, I know Waits is talented, and I probably have heard something I like by him...I do have an album or two by him somewhere, but I've not dug them out in sometime. Probably little surprise one of them is the sentimental 'One From the Heart' collaboration.

Downtown Train as performed by Rod Stewart may be light pop, sellout pop, or a distillation to many, but while I don't listen to it every day or even every year (probably last heard it a few years back I expect), it's enjoyable, and exciting even. I remember I was temping in a sorting office when it came out, and it made the shift more bareable and more memorable :)

The problem I have with Rod is that he's like the gritty stylist that everyone (ie your mum n dad) can enjoy - he's not out there or tuff enuff to be Tom... or way out like Screamin Jay... or soulful like Otis ... he's corn-fed UK prime MOR. Nothin wrong with that particularly. He made some good early records with a hint of the real thing and he got lucky. Personally I would go back to the source - as Rod will always be a copyist. Nothin wrong with that again - its easy on the ear no doubt and a fairly enjoyable listen at times.

Don't all the 'copyists' get successful leaving the 'originals' to starve tho?

The former arguably include The Beatles, the Stones, Zep, Bowie etc etc etc ad infinitum.

:)

Yup - I reckon so. Thats what i mean by 'getting lucky'. Mick Hucknall is making a Bobby Bland tribute album and I hope that Bobby gets some loot out of it. JL Hooker made more money out of ONE Budweiser advert than the whole of his career put together.
But just cuz someone gets lucky n someone else starves has nothin to do with the quality of their respective music (imo).
Bloody hell, its christmas day and I'm gettin all serious about Rod S. Forgive me Lord. :rolleyes:

I ought to add I'm sittin here in a santa hat with a big glass of egg nog... listening to Ring Those Christmas bells by Fred Warner & the Pennsylvanians

My cousin has come to like old blues stuff, after liking punk, heavy metal etc for years.

I pointed out to him while I can see the old original stuff has it style and passion - and I won't deny I can enjoy that at times, I *like* the production brought to such music by artists in the 60's and 70's (and beyond), me. :)

The fact many will differ on Rod is a moot point.

I think it's interesting some say he is 'not redeemed' by his good early stuff.

Unless I'm missing something, the fact that some are admitting that - be it anything from one or two songs, one or two albums, or almost everything Rod did prior to 1975, is good, is all that counts.

I don't listen to music by committee and say I can't listen to that because the later stuff that artist did was naff. I listen to music I like or don't like, simple as that.

I'm probably being simplistic again though. :rolleyes: :D

Well, Rod *was* original once. That sound he got on his first four solo albums was totally original. It was a blend of Ron Wood's bass, Martin Quittenton's acoustic guitar, Mickey Waller's drums, Mac's Hammond organ and various folky instruments such as mandolin and fiddle. Rod specifically chose the musicians who could give him that sound, and I've never heard it anywhere else.

No - yr right. I'm confused. ~I contradict myself. Its one of my hobbies./ The early records are good enough to stand alone.

Okay, Rod was sexy once - but not now, not after the mid-70's.

And because its xmas, I'll forgive ur simplistic approach, Stranger. :P

I agree with everything bradx says - both of them. :confused:

Early Rod is ok but his cover versions of soul songs are normally terrible.

1970-1973
Rod was God.

:D

He was pretty good with the the Jeff Beck Group on Truth in 1968, the only record I've got by him.

Yes.

And I think he sings, uncredited, on some late period Small Faces stuff, circa Autumn Stone.

Yes, I know they evolved into the Faces around that time anyway, but I'm some he was supposed to be present at some of the late Small Faces sessions from what I read once.

I prefer his earlier stuff as well, though if I never heard Maggie May again in my life I wouldn't complain about it. Flipping through the radio dial the other day, I came across I'm Losing You.......now that was one I listened to appreciatively the whole way through.


The Milwaukee cover is excellent, "borrowed" it from my mom's CD (in one of those record club deals, when she ordered a "Best-Of" set, she automatically thought it covered the Warner Bros. years; she was taken aback to find that it was a Mercury release!) :lol: I need to go back to it and listen to the rest of it again.

I think he was only any good when he was with Ron Wood. He's done nothing interesting in the last 30-35 years.

Wow - just when we are bombarded with arguments that this country is crap then there is strangely some blue sky

Rod Stewart is fucking off

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml.../30/nrod130.xml

If only a few of the superannuated tight trouser brigade would join

Rod has gone and recorded a cover of Edinburgh Man for his new album!!!

details here

Does not know he is actually a member of the Very Silly Party and far be it for us to inform him..

Appreciators of True Comedy know when not to interrupt..

With 10 minutes to go before midnight here, I fall hook, line and sinker to the first april fool joke of the day. :finger:

Just got this off Dime, good stuff!

:)

Faces Live 1973 June 4 London England (FM)
The Edmonton
June 4, 1973
title: Party Hogs (Ronnie Lane's Last Show)

FM Broadcast (unknown hardware) -> CD-R (unknown generation) ->
Exact Audio Copy -> Trader's Little Helper (FLAC level 8) -> MakeTorrent v2.1

SET LIST

intro
CINDY INCIDENTALLY
ANGEL
TRUE BLUE
I'D RATHER GO BLIND
JEALOUS GUY
YOU WEAR IT WELL >
MAGGIE MAY
BORSTAL BOYS
TWISTIN' THE NIGHT AWAY
MEMPHIS, TENNASSEE
WE'LL MEET AGAIN

Sound Quality: A-

In hopes of the possible Faces reunion - bring it on (home to me:)!!

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=223580

:)

Just found this on Dime ^_^

Torrent #247849 ***The Faces - London 1971, Pre-FM w/MP3 sample included***

After uploading the Rod Stewart 1976 show http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details...p.php&id=247102 I was asked if I had anything else. Well...here is one of them. This show was originally aired in 1971, was great quality and only appears to have one officially released song (Cut Across Shorty) that had to be removed, http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=168 so I felt it was worth the upload.

This show came from 2 authentic BBC Transcription reels (in the original green and white boxes) and sounds great. I did a tad of re-editing to remove Cut Across Shorty which was originally track 2. It was transferred on a Tascam BR20-T to a Sony CDR-W33 professional stand alone recorder. Reels were 1/2 track and 7.5 IPS. There was no EQ'ing just a little track editing. I have another more common Faces show from 1973, but it appears 4 songs were released on the box set. I also have a couple later Rod Stewart shows that hopefully in time be able to upload. A couple are still on vinyl, so those will definitely be awhile.

Enjoy!


The Faces
BBC Transcription Pre-Fm reels
John Peel Sunday Concert
Paris Cinema, London, England
May 13th 1971

Track List:

Disc 1
1) You're My Girl
2) Love In Vain
3) Bad N' Ruin
4) It's All Over Now
5) Had Me A Real Good Time
6) (I Know) I'm Losing You


Transferred by Talbe1019

PRE-FM Reel>CDRW>WAV>CDWAV>Archived CDR>WAV>FLAC



http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=247849

:)

well he did Bill is dead.

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