Detective Instincts: "My razor blades will cut down your entrance" followed by what sounds like a pick running down the strings of what I suppose could be an out of tune guitar, I'm not quite sure what it is but it's a great moment.

Such moments on record are numerous and difficult to select from- so I'll cop out and select the "Jew on a motorbike" finale to Garden from the "Live at the Hacienda" DVD - truly phenomenal :D .

Likewise from Garden. "I see what flows"

i was thinking about starting a thread called the 'frisson moment' or sth sim (not quite great moments as in the thread on the perm forum) as i was listening to nwra-the bit when the riff really kicks in after the prologue

or the live joke-after the practice start and then the guitars sear for real

Again moments are many but i'd narrow it down to-

Realm of Dusk-'its approaching....' who is ,what is,i dont know but putting this track on makes me feel its breath upon the back of my neck

Underground Medicine-'and when it clicks/theres no resist' as a track thats never failed to kick me into a higher gear physically' weird how a pro-chemical song can actually produce for me anyway a kick far superior than most chemicals

think for me its rarer that a fall album dos nt contain at least a couple of tracks that have power to change either atmosphere of room i m playing them in or if listened to on headphones my pulse rate/walking running pace

Just two examples:


The moment MES starts screeching "they shun me and think me unclean, unclean" on Spectre vs Rector.

Almost the complete Smile (often performed with additional echo), especially the beginning, "UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP UP" and this section:
SMILES
Wants anarchy
SMILED
The club nerve and poses
Physical awareness
Smiles
Take the chicken run, take the chicken run
To the toilet
In the above, designed from above club
Makes ginger
"Go on, you can do it!"
SMILE

I've gone on about this before: but the kazoo note that sounds like the start of a solo in City Hobgoblins, and in the same song the repeating on the innocuous line "At night in peace" taking on an extremely sinister aspect.

And the bit where it starts going wrong for the I'm into CB bloke, at about 3.38, where the guitar starts playing seemingly random things and the keyboard comes in, out of tune.

The final note of Hexen Definitive/ Strife Knot (studio version).

I was driving home the other day and "Chicago Now" was on the stereo. I was coming up to a congested roundabout with new roadworks, so I was concentrating on what was going on and not really paying attention to the music. Then the weird "beep beep" keyboard horns came on (towards the end of the track) and I jumped out of my skin thinking that some car was beeping at me. It actually took me a while to figure out it was the music, and I was kinda disorientated for a wee bit...Certainly made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

The 'McGinty' bit of Pat Trip Dispenser. Something to do with the combination of the way he speaks and the creepy music.

YOU PEP! by mes right at the end of the song. the sound of a broken man.


'The Miracles on Blonde September/Back to their route/Back to their tedium/cambodia,cambodia/wwhrrRRUP!' always brings the ol' tears to the eyes. something about the deliberation of the delivery and the intensity of the music at that point. its a bit special.

Not so much the song but the moment. It was going to see Lord of the Rings at Poole UCI and Touch Sensitive came on during the adverts - that was also a very proud moment for some reason! An absolutely packed cinema who had no choice but to listen to The Fall.

We're gonna go back ...

Too many to mention, but:

Just before last verse of "Various Times": MES announces "Future," and Bramah's guitar gives out that spooky spray of notes, like tracer fire lighting up "one-9-80" and Smith's prophetic glimpse of our own culture, "since they got rid of time around here."

"Spector vs. Rector," live : the screams. MES like he's being torn apart on stage.

"Winter" - "Gimme the lead, gimme the lead, GIMME THE LEAD!"

"Garden": the double-drumming climax, just before "JewornamotahBIKE" - it sounds like another 30 musicians have suddenly joined in, and the studio's collapsing round them.

Each of these times, and more, you just stare at the cd player/stereo/family heirloom Peel cassette and think: "Jesus ..."

ROD - especially when Brix's background yelp comes in

Gut - Here are your wedding pictures, They are black (ha ha)... Who are the riff-makers. Who are they really? How old are the stars really?

Paintwork - Chest scars portrayed Aztec life in his horrible...formation really late. Main sequence stars were no good for making carbon in this way. Red giant stars......[surplayed]. Disfigured in a lady, tedious, Was over accountant's and on business, Then I woke up and I decided to recommence my diary

Wonderful - Whip wire, Whip wire, Hawk man, Slip down easy, Don't make me a go-between, This is Mr. and Mrs. Smith, To whom you are speaking

Hex - Two white doves cross the sky, There fly krakens, And sometimes, that little.....

Grotesque - The dead cannot contradict, Sometimes the living cannot, A new face in hell! MES swoosh vocals

code-selfish - Olympic bidding again and again, Exciting developments, The Birmingham School of Business School

The bit on Lay of the Land where MES sings 'lay of the land my son' and seems to start laughing a bit and then the guitars come in dead vicious. And then the scratchy guitars a bit further on.

I forgot about this one...

Brix's screams in Terry Waite Sez.

The bit where the dub beat kicks-in in Dr Buck's Letter.

All of No Xmas For John Qauys, when I'm stoned.

"Yes said Cameron, and the thing was in the impression of J TEMPERANCE!!!"

"The v-v-v-v-v-villagers, are surrounding the house!!"

the laugh on buck's letter when he is talking about tong

when wait sir wait sir comes in on behind the counter

when brix does the hey hey hey bit on kicker conspiracy on the hacienda dvd

right from the off on bill is dead, that flat 4/4 drum beat

when the riff kicks in on free range

The "Ha Ha" on the Peel Session version of "New Puritan." In fact, the bulk of this song maintains this menacing mood throughout!

I also agree with the "vvvillagers are surrounding the house" line which has on more than one occasion caused me to look out the window just in case!

So many more are in the sub-conscious waiting to be dug out.

There are many, but off the top of my head:

MES' disembodied voice at the beginning of "Service"

"Benny and his cobweb EEEEYYYYEEESSSS" from "Who Makes The Nazis"

The tense instrumental buildup in the middle of "No Bulbs"

The way MES sings the word "side" during the line "from the side where you talk" in "C.R.E.E.P."

"Wings" - the entire song


and so many more...

Sorry, forgot an important one:

Brix cooing "Mark..." at the end of "Paintwork".

Anytime I hear Ya Wanner I get those moments. It was the first song I heard them play live.

".....north west of Desden....AND NEVER SEEN AGAIN!!!"

the drums on A Figure Walks

the bass on Das Vulture Ans Ein Nutter-Wain

the riff on Gross Chapel - British Grenadiers (as well as "I'll put you down" at the end)

the intro on Auto-Tech Pilot

the lyrics on Disney's Dream Debased

The rotor-blade like opening of R.O.D. and the whole of Hexen Definitive-Strife Knot - when I first heard these I knew that something is different there. And great.

Sing, ta ra ra ra ra ra, for the British Grenadiers

Right noise.

Too many to mention but among them:

HE PEP! The opening line, and each time MES belts the title with all he has in him
SPINETRAK - The chord change in the middle of the song and the repitition of "sideshow (sexual?) again"
FEELING NUMB - pretty much all of it
OH! BROTHER - "be alooooooone"
GREEN EYED LOCO MAN - "g-g-g-g-g-Green eyed..."
KETAMINE SUN- as soon as the keyboard playing human voices kicks in
PACIFYING JOINT - the final shouts

MES is just a master of these moments. This is why they're still the best band around....

There's a track on the peel boxset i'd never heard before, shake-off, in particular where the siren noises come in and suddenly stop. Such a short track though which is a shame. Which album is it from?

marshall suite I think

Ah right, cheers. i always forget about that one, never see it anywhere.

thats cos its been deleted

got mine on ebay for about £8 :)

Pacifying joint: "... the widow of Windsaahhh.."
Victoria: "....in the land that I love..."
Leave the Capitol: chorus.
Youwanner: ".. work in progress....work in progress..." "could have had a WOOF!..."
Frightened: all
80's-90's: Opening guitar/bass riff.

That's enough

Just about every time Mark makes use of his plastic megaphone.

"Over. Over"'s in Man Who's Head and each time it appears in Athlete Cured

The bit in Winter where Hanley plays this short but mad bass run, as if he's releasing everything that's been pent up from having to play little more than one note for the rest of the song.

Yes!! Yes!! And then fucks up the one note riff as he goes back into it.

That's the sort of thing that the Fall do best.

bit like the middle of no bulbs. every time i think the whole thing is going to collapse and yet somehow resues itself just as mark steps in with "hep now tryin to find..."

The instrument you are referring to is a "zither", which is a huge flat-ish board of strings and is a bit like a mini-harp. If memory serves, its K Burns playing it.

impression of j temperance. "where he says no birth as the changeling was witnessed."

also "fed from rubbish from disposal barges"