Cans of drink just don't taste the same if they are room temperature or more <_< they just have to be cold.

it goes to show that after the excitement of the build up of the gig, we need more excitement.

but i fully agree, i have to keep orange juice in my room, it sux.

alex

i sooooo know what you mean. i'm a dr pepper fan (apparently he's not a real doctor, can anyone explain this?) and this drink is waay more sensetive than normal to heat. what is everyone else's preference?

I'm a Dr Pepper head as well, started on it when I (briefly) lived in America, came back home and had to wait 6 years for it to appear here...

I'm trying to start a ginger beer revival. It's very nice when warm, but superb when poured lovingly over ice. And even better if you add tequila to it.

For me, Coke just has to be cold, but I think Dr Pepper is just fine either way. I too first encountered it in the US and couldn't find it later on.

Ginger beer, eh? Try this.

Loads of ice. One shot of Kahlua, one shot of rum, one shot of lime cordial, fill to top with ginger beer. It's called a Fidel Castro and it's ace. Kahlua's a bit expensive, but it's worth the effort.

I'm actually boycotting Coca-Cola at the moment. I went to a (very very dull) meeting with a campaigning group a few months ago and (in the bits while I was awake) they made some deeply worrying allegations against the company. I wasn't entirely sure whether a boycott was entirely relevant to the cause, but decided to do it anyway, and it's made me realise just how many things are really Coca-Cola in disguise. Sprite, Fanta, Lilt, Oasis, Appletiser, everything by Schweppes in 155 countries... and of course Schweppes and Cadbury's are the same company.

Anyway, the upshot of all this is that I've found lots of other drinks that are a jolly lot less sickly than Coke anyway. Feel Good Drinks are really nice, for instance, but less so when they're warm.

Lumme. Would you care to share the gist of these allegations, in a 'During the meeting we were told that...' stylee?

On a similar note, I don't touch Nestle products. If anyone's wondering why they could take a look at http://www.babymilkaction.org. Apologies for anyone freaking out at the topic of conversation temporarily veering from sheds, but sometimes you've got to take an interest in what's going on around you...

If you've got time, take a good look round the site, otherwise just start here: http://www.babymilkaction.org/press/press20oct03.html

The Nestle debate reared its head back when I was at Nottingham University about 3-4 years ago, and again not enough people voted for action to be taken by the Union.

eek. that babymilk website is horrible. i'm never eating kitkats again. and we want to know the coca-cola dirt! are feel good drinks the fruit smoothie ones? i find them a little overpriced. and ginger beer is delicious. and sheds are great!

(Temporarily puts serious head on again)

If reading the above makes you have an issue with Nestle, I should point out that they're also behind Rowntrees and Crosse and Blackwell.

I don't spend a lot of my life flag-waving and hectoring people, but you've got to have some boundaries and this is one of mine.

(Removes serious head)

Sheds are OK. Except when they are suffixed by the word 'Seven'.

i don't eat rowntrees anyway, they're too sickly sweet for my taste. i may ghave said this before, but sugar puffs are (at least) 49 percent sugar. i prefer coco pops.

In a 180 degree turn from the topic...

Tea!!!!!!!

Jesus how I hate Ice Tea. Argh, thinking about it makes me want to s**t.



oh no.

you've gotta try fentmans cola. its proper hand made cola. my girlfriends mum sells it in her cafe and it is the best. so nice, butit needs to be served with ice. the one time i had it warm it just wasn't right.

on a boycotting note. mcdonalds and starbucks. not for the right reasons probably, but because you simply can find better out there. there are so many better burgers than mcdonalds, and i dont drink coffee or any hot drinks, so i kinda boycott it anyway. but there are loads of better places to get a drink from than some mass produced coffee warehouse. and its not even a great atmosphere to sit cos its filled with arty type who think its chic to sit and have a coffee in starbucks, like they've walked out of new york or something, wrong!! if you're ever in california, try a drink called "Jamba Juice" it simply is the best drink ever. organic produce, madeof fruits and wheat grasses and soya milk, so nice.

thats my rant over.

alex

hmm. ice tea is drink of the gods.

on a boycotting note:

1-i had some delicious juice this mornin, only to look at the labal and see it was made by schweppes! ble!

2-me and lauren made jelly. we saw rowntrees: WE BOUGHT CO-OP OWN BRAND \m/

Now i'm not trying to be pedantic (i dont have to anymore) but what is the reason for boycotting these companies?

Is it just 'cause they are big and make lots of money? Or is there a dak secret out there, i dont remember the coke stuff being posted.

If it's just 'cause their big companies, do you not think thats a bit of a waste?

The dark secret is that workers at certain Coke bottling plants (not run directly by Coke, but used by Coke in the knowledge that these allegations exist) have been killed after joining their trade union. In other words, people who appear to favour fair working conditions are being not just sacked (which would be illegal here) but apparently murdered! This is a second hand allegation, so I do hope I'm not libelling anyone.

The boycott started with me thinking "Right... well, in the absence of being entirely sure about this, I'll not deliberately give them any of my money..." and ended up being "Cor! This and this and this are owned by Coke - if I don't buy little X brand, little X brand will go bust!" So rather than being anti big companies, I'm more pro little ones - diversity rules OK.

Having said that, my heart isn't really in it, so don't rely on me to be the socially responsible one round here!

Not at all. Regarding Nestle, I gave a specific reason as to why I avoid their products. Or rather, the website that puts it far more eloquently that I could... http://www.babymilkaction.org.

Lest I get into lots of trouble, I have read that Crosse & Blackwell have now been removed from the boycott list, which presumably means that they are no longer affiliated. So bring out the Branston!

Oh good.

Libel, another silly law brought in by the government.


Freedom of speech, er no. You can say what you want, er, as long as its not against the law.


Yeah.

that's lieing though, libel.

something that is silly is the recent allegations against the palace that aren't true but can't be reported. although that was said in the news. so basically, themain story of many news programs is this

"something bad hasn't happened (but it's about the prince!)"

which was a little strange.

Jesus, if everytime i made up stuff about a person i was arrested and fined, well, lets just say there wouldnt be very much 'matt money' going round.

The thing about the prince was that he "apparantly did the bad thing with a servant." Come and get me Mr. Blunkett.

Oh wait.

I'm sure a lawyer-type-individual will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think libel is a civil offence, not criminal. Therefore you shouldn't find yourself arrested and fined if you go telling lies about people - they might choose to sue you, of course.

i dont mean 'telling lies' about people, i mean like, um, saying, oooo! hes a hermaphrodite, and has gerbils in his bed.

Or not.

That's not a definition of libel I'm familiar with, but it's definitely my favourite!

Libels are published things that reflect on you badly in one way or another. The law assumes them to be untrue - but of course, one defence to libel is 'justification' - in other words, if the person who published the defamatory thing proves it's true, then the person hasn't been libelled.

yes... and whilst this is topical, a quote from george bush on his visit to britian...

"I'm so pleased to be going to a country which says people are allowed to express their minds"

hahaha.

good ol' Dubya

Love that guy

alex

Oooooooooooo!

Americans, dont get me started on them.

Dubya will hopefully be shot. Then we can mourn his eloquent nature.

Bah!

Did you know that he has the lowest IQ of all the US presidents?

(82 i think it was)

that is something i didnt know

does this surprise me.....no

should've thrown stones at the white house when i was there, you never know...its a long shot but still.

did anyone ever watch 2DTV. that was the best Goerge Dubya Bush i have ever seen. so funny. with proffessor liebstrom, the sock puppet advisor...you should check it out. a cartoon 'spitting image'

alex

Trust me - throwing stones at White House... not a good idea. Here we have the amusing scenes of Her Majesty's Finest ™ pulling a pensioner down off the Buck House railings for putting up a placard saying 'George W Bush is a little bit silly' or something. Over there they have guns.

I did see 2DTV. It was ace. And the music was done by the genius that is Willie Dowling (see: Wildhearts, Honeycrack, Celebrity Squares etc.)

Anyone wanting ideas for constructive ways to get at GW could take a look at http://www.interwebnet.org, a site that does it with humour. Hardly world-changing yet but it's early days for them.

And be careful not to turn it into anti-Americanism. The amount of people who completely failed to notice that this was anti-Bush, not anti-America was depressing. News programmes brought out war veterans to reinforce this misunderstanding... even more depressing.

Before I get too grumpy, I'd just like to say that I bought the Creature Comforts DVD today and it's ace.

yeah. or www.punkvoter.com is pretty funny too, it has that list of silly things he's said under downloads//flyers. in fact the george bush resume, in the same section is quite frankly, scary. this is the most powerful man in the world.

hey im not anti-american at all. i love the place to bits, and most of the people. i just had the best four months of my life discovering the place.

we bet a friend to see how close he could get to the front door, he wasnt up for it.
there was a huge sniper on the roof. love that place, the guys outside (with guns) we're top guys, let us make stupid movies using the gates and buzzers.

in washington they sell t-shirts with bushisms on...he must have seen them, do you think he's oblivious to it all?

alex