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09:42 - 03 December 2004

A Man who says he has had a series of close encounters with extraterrestrial beings believes that they are implanting monitoring devices in people's bodies. James Bazil, 25, of Withywood, Bristol, who has set up the Foundation for the Research of Extraordinary Trauma and Support for Abductees and Witnesses (FRETSAW), is calling for serious studies of the implant phenomenon to be made in the United Kingdom.

He cites the work of Dr Roger Leir in California who has performed a number of operations to remove objects, said to be of unknown origin, apparently implanted in people who say they have been abducted by aliens.

Dr Leir's books Alien Implants and The Aliens And The Scalpel have made him something of a celebrity in the USA.

Some of the objects he has retrieved are metallic, with electromagnetic properties, and others non-metallic, although analysis of them has so far proved inconclusive.

James told me: "Implants were once thought to be mere myth by sceptics when people said they lost them or they disappeared. Leir had a brainstorm - what if we put them in the subject's own blood? And it worked. Thus the objects could be kept for analysis, and so now we know implants are real, not imaginary!

"People say it happens only in America. We need to compare one culture to another to see if the phenomenon remains consistent or not. If the implants really are in people (as they have found in America) then we should in theory find them elsewhere.

"The UK is lacking in research on this subject compared to the US and other countries, which is part of the reason why we believe it's an 'American thing'.

"It's one heck of a mystery in need of resolve! I am saying let's put this to the test - let's do here what Dr Leir did in the States."

James said he planned to set up a project dedicated to seeing the research carried out, and that he would appreciate any offers of practical, theoretical, or funding help.

"Hopefully, an amazing scientific discovery will not be hampered by lack of interest and funds," he added.

As a ufologist, James has embarked on a "close encounter analysis" course which will provide him with a professional diploma for research, therapy and counselling with abductees.

"It is hopefully a qualification that will bring in the first agreed-upon methodology for our research," he said.

"If we're all doing things differently, or asking different questions, and so on, sadly much of what is collected over the years is difficult to analyse properly, and even useless. All proper science and research needs consistency of approach."

James, who says he has had 13 close encounters, passed a lie detector test on a TV show last month when questioned about his UFO claims.

FROM the age of four he complained of seeing little men or goblins, and once he saw a "lizard with humanoid form" in his bedroom. And he continued to have similar experiences throughout his childhood and teenage years.

James would like anyone with UFO experiences to contact him at FRETSAW via free_concern@yahoo.co.uk or http://groups.msn.com/fretsa4witnesses
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UFOHARRY

Ah, this old chesnut again. I'm sorry, I asked this in a thread before - where are all these implants that have been removed from people's bodies. If they are genuinely not-terrestrial why aren't they all over the papers? Could it be that Dr Leir et al aren't able to prove what they're saying? <_<
Cynical yes, but is should be easy to prove surely?!

HI STORMWATCH, HA HA YOU KNOW I ONLY POST STUFF LIKE THIS NOW AND AGAIN TO BRING OUT THE CYNIC IN YOU LOL :D LIKE EVERYONE ELSE I HAVE SAW PHOTOGRAPHS OF SUPPOSEDLY ALIEN/IMPLANTS, I HAVE EVEN WATCHED A VIDEO OF ONE BEING SURGICALLY REMOVED BUT LIKE YOU I DONT KNOW WHERE THEY ALL END UP. :ph43r:
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Well that's my problem Harry. You see them remove some little metallic object, sometimes even covered in some sort of membrane (which is natural I believe, nothing "alien" about that) and they start telling you it's an alien implant and it's going for tests.
Then you never hear about it again. Pfft. :angry:

You're right Stormwatch the membrane is natural. Basically just a fine network of capillaries made up by your body to keep the circulation going round the obstruction. I certainly wouldn't trust any "researcher" to be able to tell me if an implant is ET in origin if they didn't know that.

Coincedentally, I saw a little bit of a program today about alien implants. There was some large American guy (obviously) claiming he had an implant in his leg. They removed it and showed us it. It was clearly (to my eyes!) a sliver of glass. But this guy claimed he had a photo of himself as a boy where you could see the "scoop" mark where the thing had been inserted (yes, they showed the photo, no, it didn't prove anything) and that it was some special artifact.

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are you saying that implants don't exist ?

or just that people who claim to have implants do not have implants ?

do you think that 20th century science could make implants to create psychological influence in human behaviour ?

I'm saying: Implants don't exist. People that claim to have implants DO NOT have alien implants, they're mistaken (not liars, mind, just mistaken). I think 20th century science couldn't create implants of this size that would influence human behaviour. But, seeing as it's now the 21st century, I STILL say science can't come up with an implant as small as we've seen that would be able to affect human behaviour in any appreciable way.
Why? Do you have proof that I'm wrong?

I think you're underestimating 20th century science and brain sciences

There are areas of the brain which if incessantly stimulated by a radio or microwave receiver could result in operant conditioning.
e.g. just ask Pavlov - whenever the bell went the dog salivated
there is enough microtechnological competence to do this - and plenty of animal research to suggest that its possible -

If an implant in human or animal brain was stimulating sexual excitement every time stimulus X was encountered - then no doubt the love of X files would be eventually be huge.

There are lots and lots of scientific stuff on this e.g. Drs; Persinger, Ewan Cameron,
Jolyon West - I'm rather surprised that you think that implants don't exist - documenatry evidence for the areas of military science that would suggest that they do have been around from the 1950's.
basically a little receiver and a battery in a vulnerable place - when did casio watches come out ?

you may also argue that civilian science such as casio is big and clunky - but in the lab today they can move atoms with forceps - and create tiny computers using atomic circuitry - this isn't even alien material.

i.e. nanotechnology

Hmmm, yeah, I have to admit you do make some good points there Andrew. Perhaps you're right. But, if you are - think about it. Aliens must certainly be miles ahead of us technologically, so if they are implanting humans, they wouldn't be using things as big as what's being touted by the implant theorists.
So, maybe the implants are genuine mind control devices of some sort - but they're not alien.
IMO! :P

yeah stormwatch,

who knows - the only question is that if there was the technology supplied by whosoever AND it could be put to profitable military use would it be implemented to achieve a reasonable economical or military [or alien] objective.

If they are used - then there must exist people who will debunk them to prevent mass panic and also to prevent other multinational corporations from milking the ideas and objectives i.e. a cover up policy.

I could get a job with the military cover up team by inventing a story like 'implants are just bits of the planet venus magnified a hundred times ... !!' :(

I'm figuring that there may be more information, through weeding it out, on this subject. See what you can discover?

Bests,
Bill

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