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Title: The Tomb Scorpian
Description: Do you guys think it's unfair?


hbegg - September 10, 2005 03:16 AM (GMT)
IMHO I do. It's stats are just too good. Compare it to a saurus scar vet (same point cost)


Saurus Scorpian Winner
Army Slot: Hero Special Scorpian
Movement: 4 7 Scorpian
WS 5 4 Saurus
Str: 5 5 N/A
Tou: 4 5 Scorpian
Init: 2 2 N/A
Wounds: 2 4 Scorpian!!!
Attacks: 4 4 N/A
LD: 8, CB Unbreakable Scorpian
Armour: 5+ 5+ N/A

Special Rules;

Saurus: Cold blooded

Scorpian: Poison, Killing Blow, It came from below, Construct. Immune to Psychology, Unbreakable

For me this is unfair. In face to face combat the Scorpian is clearly the winner.

Lets compare it to a unit of skinks of similar cost:

12 Skinks +Scouting =82 pts
Scorpian =85 pts

I know which one I'd rather take!

Wilko - September 10, 2005 06:20 AM (GMT)
But the thing is you can't cross-compare things from different armies. The main fact is that they are both used for different purposes, each one giving them both thier own pros and cons...

Funky the Elf - September 10, 2005 07:53 AM (GMT)
Wilko is right. They are not only different units that have totally different roles on the battle field, making them hard to compare anyway. They are also from different armies, making a comparison impossible.

I agree with you that the TS is very good, and even most TK players say that they would agree with a raise of his cost by 10 or 15 points. Or with taking away his magic resistance.
On the other hand, he blends in to the TK army, which lacks uber units (unlike lizzies). He might be a bit cheaper in direct comparison to similar units from other armies, but he adds to the balance of the armies as a whole.

snotta - September 12, 2005 11:10 AM (GMT)
hbegg is a little sore because he recen tly lost a considerable number of salamanders to a scorpion.
Admittedly we forgot some rules which would have made this less devestating (killing blow only effects man sized models) but i thought it was hilarious. It then overran to beat a unit of krxiger, this time by normal means. Beutiful!

Down with the Australian english sylabus

Snotta

hbegg - September 13, 2005 06:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
But the thing is you can't cross-compare things from different armies. The main fact is that they are both used for different purposes


Ok, what about a mage/war machine hunter from the same army, Carrion.

Any Tomb King player would tell you which he would prefer. It isn't that hard to see which is more effective at this role for the same points.

QUOTE
Admittedly we forgot some rules which would have made this less devestating


Less devistating! the unit would have held! Next round you 'may' have not hit and wounded with all attacks.

Down with the Australian english sylabus

PS: Snotta, why do you sign your labelled post with your labelled name ;)

Wilko - September 13, 2005 06:21 AM (GMT)
Down with the Australian english sylabus

Whats this mean? like im an aussie and I dont get it

hbegg - September 13, 2005 06:34 AM (GMT)
My friend Snotta and I disapprove of the English taught at schools. We think it's crap in short.

farsight - September 13, 2005 07:01 AM (GMT)
as the guys have said before the scopian is totally different if you compare it to the scar vet, they are completely different. another example is a chosen knight compared with an empire captain, both are powerful but completely different.

also if it was the scar vet against the scorpian the character could be tooled up too take it down ^_^ grr!

hbegg - September 13, 2005 07:13 AM (GMT)
Tooling up costs more and even then...

Ummm the scar vet is really only for combat. He has the same LD as the important units in the battle line and only 1 point more that kroxigor (flankers).

Zephyro - September 13, 2005 01:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Ok, what about a mage/war machine hunter from the same army, Carrion.

Any Tomb King player would tell you which he would prefer. It isn't that hard to see which is more effective at this role for the same points.


Well, I prefer Carrion :).

Carrion furfill a totally different role, as they can have a charge range of 40, this way capturing fleerers with ease.

Tomb scorpions also get a lot of rules, but the poison is put in to get less KB you know! And after all, he doesn't have us 5, so noone will go headalong against most units with it....

It's just 1 of those units which is a bit more powerfull than the normal stuff, but what is wrong with that? Almost every aryr has alot or something of these kinda things.

My dwarf opponent also doesn't really like it, but he won't whine, but take on the weak sides of the scorpion, and tries to take him out with that

Zephyro

hbegg - September 14, 2005 05:54 AM (GMT)
How do they charge 40' with lich priest with cloak? Cause flyers charge 20'

Funky the Elf - September 14, 2005 11:02 AM (GMT)
Carrions can move 20" in the movement phase, and then be moved magically in the magic phase another 20". So they can potentially charge units up to 40" away! B)

farsight - September 22, 2005 08:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Funky the Elf @ Sep 14 2005, 06:02 AM)
Carrions can move 20" in the movement phase, and then be moved magically in the magic phase another 20". So they can potentially charge units up to 40" away! B)

never seen dead flying corpses move so fast :lol:

anyway, can carrion negate ranks e.g. flank charge, as i know there flyers bt i was just curious?




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