Title: The new star wars rule P.s im back
Dreg - June 3, 2005 07:34 PM (GMT)
I tell u now any stars wars fans go WATCH THIS MOVIE it bloody excellent i mean coem on wookies :).
If u like seeing robots geting there heads kciked in (as well as jedis) then woah.
This one sorts of redeems the other 2 (ep 1 and 2).
Also on a slighty les brighter note he cant make anymore films (well at least hes said he aint gonna).
Also if u havent noticed im bakc i sorta quited warhammer and40k for a couple months and i jsut saw a model on the floor and had to paint it then make a new armylist:)
Well see this film.
Derek101 - June 3, 2005 08:01 PM (GMT)
I did. It was quite good. :mellow: Don't get me wrong I like Star Wars but maybe not all of the acting, especially at the end (don't worry I won't ruin it; anyway you should know the ending) when Darth Vader goes NNNNNOOOOO! on his knees; I did laugh, apart from that it was good. :thumb:
Dreg - June 3, 2005 08:13 PM (GMT)
Yeah u got a point that was rubish but hey i must admit i did like the effects of the actor(the eyes) through the film and i have otehr thing to say wooh yoda and chewe. :fight:
Aesgareth - June 3, 2005 09:49 PM (GMT)
I didn't like the lightsaber fights; they were rather poorly choreographed. At one point during "the" fight (no spoilers here :rolleyes: ), both jedi spend about four seconds just spinning their lightsabers around behind their backs without even making contact. It was rather pathetic...
LordChilipepa - June 3, 2005 10:10 PM (GMT)
I went to see it soon after it came out, because I was on study leave and had nothing else to do (revision... bah) - I think in hindsight I'd rather have done a Maths practice paper. That was possibly the third worst two-odd hours of acting I have seen in my life, with Lucas' other two recent 'epics' making first and second. After the first one, I watched the original movies, and thought that since the originals were okay, maybe the second one would be good; after the second one, I resolved that I would not go and see the third one, but I allowed myself to be talked out of it by my family. O Chili, thou art weak of will...
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Dreg - June 4, 2005 12:08 AM (GMT)
Well u should of got it on dvd cheaper that way seening as it only costs a couple of quid amd o can wathc over and over again.
But back to topic Aesgareth i dont see how the lightsaber battles were dull. They were alot better corographed than any of the other ones (except maybe darth maul versus obi and qui).And about the lgihsabers behind back thigns well what du exspect thee jedis for gods sakes ther esupposed to be super warriors(bah).
Erhh chilli ure post is hard to read but i get ure jist. To be honested ep 1 and 2 were c*** but i reckon this one redemmed the last 3(first 3 ).
*hides under a rock so that chilli cant wack him for inslulting his writing*
Aesgareth - June 4, 2005 12:27 AM (GMT)
*This post contains spoilers*
So what you're saying is that super-warriors would, in the middle of a fight, begin to twirl their weapons around uselessly for no reason, and with no possible benefit to the outcome of the fight?
I stand by the "bad choreography" comment. The fights with Palpatine were the worst (for a while, I thought he and Mace Windu were ballroom dancing, for cripes' sake!) but the others weren't much better. Yoda... for god's sake, why do they have to have Yoda fight scenes? He's back, completely with his ridiculous "Lightsaber pinwheel attack," only this time he was fighting Palpatine, who moved so slowly and spasmodically that I wondered if his opponents would even be able to overcome him before his own internal afflictions did him in. The only fight that I could (barely) stand was the one between Obi-Wan and "Grievous," and that was only because I was laughing so hard at the irony of him having proudly proclaimed that he learned his sword-style from Count Dooku, before getting his hands cut off and dying (much as Dooku did).
As for the "Hard to read" comment, I'll leave it in LCP's capable hands to write up a suitably eloquent rebuttal.
Dreg - June 4, 2005 12:33 AM (GMT)
Ahh i missed these tlaks so much:).
Ok what the hell do u mean uselly they iddnt really do it uselness did they they used it to fake there moves and sort fool there opponest to were they move. Fiar enoguh i thoguth palpatien was gonna die from heart attack but and come on yoda was oen fo the best fight ever slicing cloenm severywere.
Grimgor Ironhide - June 4, 2005 01:17 AM (GMT)
I've seen it twice. I have a lot to say about it. Maybe spoilers in this post.
The acting was for the most part really bad, although there a few really good scenes that sort of make up for it. Very hard to be watching a space drama when the acting just isn't . . . dramatic. It went from drama to fake epic to corny. Sorry.
But of course I knew that would happen having seen episodes 1 and 2. I figured the effects would make up for it, and for the most part they did. HOWEVER, this film was a major disappoint in that area too. I mean, George Lucas is the kind of guy who doesn't let anything slip. He has THE best industry and people behind this thing, he has all the money he needs and all the time he needs, but this film was very sloppy technically speaking. There were dozens of problems with lighting and the environments. There are a few scenes were an actor has a digital image spliced over him, and the lighting on the actor doesn't match the digital image. There are numerous shots in space where a small craft is lit from multiple sides at once when the only light source is a star or the star's light reflected off of a planet. On Mustafar, the background of lava and crap exploding doesn't reflect on the actors in front of it. Most of the time, there is no orange glow that should shave been there, and when lava erupts behind Anakin there is no back lighting.
Also, there are a lot of scenes where the actor needs to do something that's impossible, so instead of change the blocking to make the move possible, they use a digital character that looks like the actor. Sorry. It just doesn't work. Watch palpatine during the fight with yoda, in a few places he does things that no one could possibly do. He moves and twists in weird ways, far too quickly. And yes, the choreography was sloppy.
As a whole, this film seemed to have been made for little kids that wouldn't notice all these things, and yet it's a dark, gruesome, PG-13 movie. Very sloppy.
But it was fun enough to watch everything fit into place. Go see it, you'll probably have a higher opinion of it than I did.
Aesgareth - June 4, 2005 05:46 AM (GMT)
"Faking your opponent out" in a swordfight is achieved by feinting: presenting a credible threat, and simply not following up on it. Often a feint comes within a hair's breadth of being an actual attack, followed by a lightning-fast disengagement and either another feint or an attack from another direction. Waving your sword around behind your back simply puts it where it can neither attack or defend, which allows your opponent to kill or maim you in any manner of way. A "super warrior" would not have utilised such a ridiculous move; let alone two "super warriors" who both know how easily the other would be able to take advantage of such a pathetic opening of the defenses. Hence the scene being idiotic.
And I have no idea what you said in the second half of your post. Please, please proofread. It would do us both a world of good.
LordChilipepa - June 4, 2005 06:53 AM (GMT)
I'd be inclined to agree with Grimgor and Aesgareth - the Jedi were forever spinning around, turning their backs on each other and generally putting their swords in stupid places to show off. I had a feeling that against someone who actually knew how to fight dirty, they would be lying on the ground with a stab in the heart and a fork in the eye within moments. That being said, I did find the Yoda fight scenes quite fun - silly, but amusing :D
General warning - watch tone, eh, everyone? Keep it friendly. After all, we only be discussin' a (bad) movie - 'twould be a shame for a row to break out.
Dreg - June 4, 2005 09:17 AM (GMT)
Yeha that was porbbaly the ebst bit for me seeing a little green dude kick ass.
And Aesagreth ok maybe some of the moves r stupid but its stil lentertaining to young kids ( i know my little bro and sister loves it).Thats what i reckon he was going for to dazzle the yuoner audience.
Grimgor Ironhide - June 4, 2005 11:48 AM (GMT)
That's not George Lucas. George Lucas doesn't make movies for people, he makes them to tell a story. And he is usually so meticulous and precise, it's a shame to see this final instalment be so sloppily done. Just watch the fight between Darth Maul and Obi-wan + Qui Gon, or Vader and Luke in both 5 and 6.
farsight - June 4, 2005 02:57 PM (GMT)
(you should know by now but i may give away some stuff if you haven't seen the film, so go see it, now)
i liked the film and have to say i really enjoyed it, even though it was deppresing with all the stuff that happened. concerning the lightsaber duels i find they were great to watch and when obi- wan was fighting anakin you knew that he wanted to stop him but not neccercarily kill him outright which was cool.
i have two major nags on the film though these are when obi-wan fought the general, who was using 4 lightsabers :( you thoguht he kick his ass and go in with all 4 sabers but know he had to be a numpty and just spin the top two in circles, what was he trying to do make a hole in the floor or something, and then obi-wan just chopped of one arm then the other. great :huh: .
the second is concerning the sith master (can't remember his name) when mace windu and 3 other jedi went in he jumped up and killed the 3 extra jedi one by one very slowly, i was thinking "are they even jedi or security guards with shiny sticks", now i know that he is a sith master but come on they could of at least tried <_< .
apart from those two i found the film very enjoyable (and deppresing) throughout, especially when yoda took down the two guards standing by the door to the dark lords chamber :lol: .
farsight
Swordsalot - June 4, 2005 03:53 PM (GMT)
I think it was the best movie of the entire series, and EASILY the best in this prequel trilogy (I think it was on par at least with the second trilogy).
There were annoying bits, I didn't like most of the start: R2D2 is wrong as a super killing machine that he was turned into, and that scene where grievous blows out the window of his command bridge thingy was just wrong. Actually, now that I think about it I hated most things about the Grievous character (the concept of a robot jedi? shudder), but that is an aside. Also, including chewbacca just for the sake of it was a little annoying.
I think the rest of the movie was great. I think it told the story of Anakin's corruption flawlessly (well, I didn't like how Padme was sort of swept under a rug at the end: there is no way Anakin would believe he killed her in a fit of rage without feeling the slightest bit annoyed at the Emperor). Any errors in the special effects were unnoticable to me at least.
I think it was good that the Emperor slaughtered most of the Jedi so effortlessly: they were nobodies, he was the ultimate sith lord. I liked most of the Emperor and Yoda's fight scenes, particularly as they are rarely portrayed as fighters in the later episodes. The fight between them was a little annoying (I wanted to see sabre ricochet off sabre, not a couple of oldies hurling anti-grav platforms at each other), but good nonetheless.
The only thing I had against Anakin vs Obi-Wan was that they carried the same coloured swords and looked pretty similar. It was sometimes confusing which one was which. However, the scene was enjoyable regardless. Sure there was some random twirling in there, but that alone does not make it a bad movie. In many fantasy / scifi settings guys do weird things during fights: take even something like Warhammer Greatswordsmen, the elite warriors of the emperor doing nothing more than holding big swords above their heads and smashing them into the ground. They are totally defenceless for most of the action: but is it a cool idea? I definitely think so :D
Dooku vs. Anakin was suitably good: no big flaws there, some exciting swordplay, a chance to see a true sith lord backstabbing his apprentice, a couple of fun throwaway lines, and the first of many fun scenes portraying Anakin's fall.
And lets not forget the best scene in the movie, Anakin cloaked, leading a legion of Storm Troopers into the Temple and the first use of the Imperial Deathmarch. In my mind, that scene could not have looked any better :D
I think it tied the first series to the second series well, filling the gap. The only weird thing was that reference at the end 'I'll teach you to communicate with Qui-Gon': it seemed to me to be an unnecessary line, and at least a little confusing.
Finally, the acting was way better than the previous movies. The script was better, the plot genuinely moved along (there seemed to be a severe lack of substance in episode 2), the fights were exciting and constant (don't get me started on that love scene in the middle of EpII), and the chance to finally see what all six movies are really about: Anakin turning into Vader.
Dreg - June 4, 2005 04:06 PM (GMT)
Well swords alot ure right aobut ti being the best in the 3 prewules but not the best in the triolgy empire strikes bakc is awseome laods better than this (At Ats:) )
and return of the jedi was aswome as well so i disagree with u there but it is a very gud film one of the best films ive seen this year.
Derek101 - June 4, 2005 04:45 PM (GMT)
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This year so far (looks at sin city in awe, drools a while, notices the certificate and swears a lot)
Anyway, the more I think about the star wars film the more I like it for some reason I don't know why. Also, can anyone remember the amount of hands being chopped off? That's just ridiculous. Also, I remember the slight twist in it about how anakin was the chosen one blah blah blah (I've had enough of prophecies in the LoTR and Matrix) and then how its actually his son who is the chosen one.
farsight - June 4, 2005 07:32 PM (GMT)
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| I think it tied the first series to the second series well, filling the gap. The only weird thing was that reference at the end 'I'll teach you to communicate with Qui-Gon': it seemed to me to be an unnecessary line, and at least a little confusing. |
just to let you guys know i have realised why yoda told obi-won how to communicate with qui-gon. now think back to the very first star wars, a new hope, when obi-won confronts darth vader, obi-won tells him "if you strike me down i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine" he says this because he knows that if he dies he is immortal and lives still with the force.
this part of the film has to be one of the most significant as it justifies why obi-won stood there and got killed by darth, because he knew if he got killed he would be turned into the force and be with qui-gon in the force.
Grimgor Ironhide - June 4, 2005 07:38 PM (GMT)
that's why all of the other jedi die instead of disappear, only yoda and obi-wan learn how to become one with the force through comunicating with qui-gon, who somehow learned it in after he died.
Funky the Elf - June 4, 2005 08:50 PM (GMT)
I just came home from seeing Episode III. Before I comment on it, I would like to briefly explain my Star Wars background!
I grew up with the Star Wars trilogy, seeing Episode VI as my first Star Wars movie when it first came to the cinema. I must have been five or six years old then. I remember that I was totally fanatical about it. I used to own all kinds of Star Wars stuff, like tons of spaceships and figures (which I sold later for 20 Marks (~ 8 pounds), not knowing that at Ebay I would have earned hundreds of Euros by selling them today... :( ).
Later I saw "The Empire Strikes back" and finally (with ten or so) I saw the first Star Wars movie too. All three parts were so fascinating to me, I remember having a phase when I saw Episode IV ten times after another because I just couldnt get enough of it!
So understandably I was extremely enthusiastic when I heard that George Lucas was planning to make movies of Episodes I-III.
Episode I. I found very dissapointing. It seemed that the weight placed on special effects had caused the story to be extraordinarily weak. That silly pseudo-funny Jaja Binks (or however you write his name) was the worst of it all. After seeing it, I thought the second episode could only get better. I was wrong.
If after Episode I. I felt dissapointment, after Episode II. I was mad! Again it was filled with special effects, but basically nothing else! And all these insanely absurd scenes! Like the scene in the fabric where Anakin was running around that reminded me of an old Amiga jump-and-run game. Or the execution, where the large monsters are led into the arena to devour Anakin and Obi Wan... it was all so highly exaggerated. It seemed like George Lucas was saying "Hey, why do we need a story, we've got three huge monsters in the film!" Not even speaking of the terribly kitschy love story.
So my expectations of Episode III were not the best.
I must say that the newest episode makes up for all the crap of the former two. I find it excellent! Despite the large weight which is placed on special effects again, this time the story is great too. Anakins process of transforming into Darth Vader is totally awesome! (And rather scary at some points too.)
What I like about it most is that it perfectly leads up to the original trilogy. Having said how much the films meant to me at the time, the background of them obviously was very important for me. So many aspects of the story which were or were not mentioned in the original trilogy, e.g. the seperation of the twins, the murder of the Jedi, the story behind the emperor and, of course, the figure of Darth Vader (with his distorted face and robotical body parts) were explained in Episode III and were presented in a fascinating way. I kept feeling "Ah, so thats how it got to be like it was two decades later!"
This episode rounds up the whole story very well. I feel that a story that lasted 20 years for me (its beginning being me seeing Episode VI way back) has now found an end. Its like the completion of a big circle that takes me back to my earliest childhood. I feel so satisfied now!
For people who the Star Wars trilogy didnt mean to more than other epic films, probably Episode III will fail to arouse the feelings that it aroused in me and other Star Wars fans. They will complain about single scenes being unrealistic, like swinging lightsabres four seconds behind their backs, without seeing the aesthetic value and the beauty of the whole saga being rounded up (and this shouldnt sound arrogant, its just a normal reaction.)
Everyone who feels similar about the original films as I do, I highly recommend the movie... no, thats not enough, those of you MUST simply see it! Theres no way around that! :)
Dreg - June 4, 2005 09:56 PM (GMT)
Wahey someone whos putting someut positvie to boe hoenst funky is wright and farsight cheers for explaning all that ive been trying to tell a m8 that but got him confused so i made him read ure post and it all becmae well obvious.
The Albino Rat - June 5, 2005 01:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (farsight @ Jun 4 2005, 02:32 PM) |
| QUOTE | | I think it tied the first series to the second series well, filling the gap. The only weird thing was that reference at the end 'I'll teach you to communicate with Qui-Gon': it seemed to me to be an unnecessary line, and at least a little confusing. |
just to let you guys know i have realised why yoda told obi-won how to communicate with qui-gon. now think back to the very first star wars, a new hope, when obi-won confronts darth vader, obi-won tells him "if you strike me down i will become more powerful than you can ever imagine" he says this because he knows that if he dies he is immortal and lives still with the force.
this part of the film has to be one of the most significant as it justifies why obi-won stood there and got killed by darth, because he knew if he got killed he would be turned into the force and be with qui-gon in the force.
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no no no...
Later in the same scene, Yoda says somthing like "I have brought Qui-gon back" or somthing similar. Me and my freinds took it as luke is Qui-gon reancarnated.
But anyways my review:
OK, i saw it the day it came out and i could not have been more happy with it. I think it is most defenatly the best movie out off all 6.
First of all, i loved the plot. I was thrilled with the way lucas conected everything. And, I even found a slight connection from the third movie to an X-box game about star wars. The game Knights of the old republic II has a charicter, kreia, who can bring people back to life. When the emperor (dont know how to spell his name" tells anikin about his master who could bring people back from death, I was conviced that his master was Kreia. Now for those of you who have played the game, you know that it takes place 3,000 years before the events of episode I, and The Emperor said that his master lived to be like 2,000. And although the name is different (Kreia and whatever The Emperor said in the movie), the charicter in kotor2 went by a few alius's.
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back on track:
The special effects were good. I noticed an improvement in the lightsaber battles since the 2nd moive. These went a lot faster. I think the "lightsaber behind the head thing" was fine. In most of the lightsaber duals, there is always a pausing point where the dualists examine each other. This was just a more exiting version of a pause in combat. I did not notice the small things like improper lighting on the one ship in the backround of the space battle, ect. And i really don't care, those small things arn't any great contribution to the movie.
The acting was average. It's not like i was watching the movie and said "my god this acting sucks @$$". I didn't notice it that much. But why George Lucus insists on hiring actors no one has heard of for his leading roles is beyond me. He needs to get some solid, non amatur actors to play Anikin, Obi-Wan, Padmae (sp) and his other leading roles. But the acting did not make it a bad movie.
Things i did not like:
Kenobi vs Grivous fight. Dude, Grivous has 4 friggin arms that spin around so fast it looks like one big lightsaber circle. Un-realistic how Obi-Wan could beat him with his one lightsaber. And how did obi rip open Gribous's chest with his bare hands? Its some space metal, and a human can rip it aprat with his hands. I think the only reason they killed of grivous is because he does not apear in the later 3 films. BTW grivous is not all robot. He used to be a creature. (me and my freinds think that he was a trandoshan because of his lizardish eyes and head when it did a close up of his face)
Yoda fighting: its unessasary. I think it was cool to see him fight in episode II, but i think yoda is best as a non combat charicter. I think that Lucus is beating a dead horse evertime he makes yoda fight. Leave Yoda be, i like him being the cryptic all knowing jedi master, not the warrior.
The wookie fight on Kyshyyk. I think it should have been longer. It was soo cool, and they only showed fighting on the battle for about 20 seconds. I wanted more wookie combat!!!!!!
TO sum it all up, Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith is a good movie!!!
farsight - June 5, 2005 09:14 AM (GMT)
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no no no...
Later in the same scene, Yoda says somthing like "I have brought Qui-gon back" or somthing similar. Me and my freinds took it as luke is Qui-gon reancarnated. |
:huh: what is the point? what i have just said is correct according to most reviews i have read.
anyway, glad i could help dreg, i hate it when people put down a film like star wars which is a brilliant series and made by a great director who put alot of effort into this one, the first two were a bit of a let down but this one makes up for it.
if someone wants to see swordfighting with no skill (complaints over the four second thing?) then watch crouching tiger or something like that.
anyway apoligies if this seems offensive or aggresive, i just love star wars ^_^
Funky the Elf - June 5, 2005 12:09 PM (GMT)
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| But why George Lucus insists on hiring actors no one has heard of for his leading roles is beyond me. He needs to get some solid, non amatur actors to play Anikin, Obi-Wan, Padmae (sp) and his other leading roles. |
I disagree with this. I think that one of the specialties of the Star Wars films was that the figures are unique. Lucas generally avoided taking known actors to avoid people being reminded of other films in which they played. Just think if Sean Connery or Bruce Willis would have appeared in the film. It would have just seemed so wrong and taken away the saga feeling.
In fact, I thought it was a minor problem that the actor who played the Jedi Organa (dont know his name) arouses feelings of familiartiy (Ive seen him in quite a few films, usually not in main roles, but he is a known actor). I couldnt view him as a Jedi Master anymore, I could hardly take him seriously.
By the way, if you point out that Harrison Ford was a known actor that Lucas used for the first films, then you are wrong! ^_^
Ford wasnt even an actor in 1977. He worked as a technician in the film studios. One day, when George Lucas was looking for actors for the film he had written, he asked Ford to practise speaking the role of Han Solo. Ford at first didnt know why, afterall he was in charge of connecting cables and such but had never acted before. But he must have been so convincing that he was picked for the role of Han Solo, although he was an amateur. We all know about Harrison Fords amazing acting career that was to follow.
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| Kenobi vs Grivous fight. Dude, Grivous has 4 friggin arms that spin around so fast it looks like one big lightsaber circle. Un-realistic how Obi-Wan could beat him with his one lightsaber. And how did obi rip open Gribous's chest with his bare hands? Its some space metal, and a human can rip it aprat with his hands. |
Dont forget that the force is strong in Kenobi! ;)
Grimgor Ironhide - June 5, 2005 01:37 PM (GMT)
About the grievous fight, yeah, the force is strong in kenobi and grievous is basically a machine. He has little strategy, probably no connection to the force, and is basically not even alive. Kenobi is a smart, quick thinking and powerful Jedi. The way he beat him was ok, because you can tell that he knew he would win anyway when he just jumps down and confronts him.
Another side not about the prophecy, Vader does bring balance to the force. He kills most of the Jedi, yes, but watch Return of the Jedi again. It is Vader who kills Palpatine, and Vader who brings Luke into the world.
It was a fun movie to watch and a great way of showing the connection between this trilogy and the second, I just thought that George Lucas' film making and directing has gone down since 1977. But then again, he's like 60 so what do you expect. The scenes were they are walking in Bail Organa's blockade runner are really cool since it is the same set as from IV, even though the ship from the outside is all digitally souped up.
The acting was only poopy in some places. I think what was really annoying was the actual lines. No matter how good an actor you are, it's hard to make a bad line come out good. All of the cheesy, cliche lines about love and such, and like Grievous' whole cliche evil villain character, that's what is annoying. I thought Anakin and Obi-Wan did a much better job of acting in this movie, with only a couple little "meh" sequences that I wouldn't have cared about if those crappy lines hadn't been in there.
But all in all, if you don't mind bugs and cliche stuff, it's a great watch.
Dreg - June 5, 2005 05:56 PM (GMT)
*Be warned may contain a slight spoiler*
Yeah i must amdit i would of preferred a better fight sequnce between grievous
and obi wan and to be honested what the hell was he doign with the top 2 lightsabers. But i did think the acting wasnt that bad to be honest i was expecting a bit more action or a bit more of a fight from the jedi but meh.
Other than that it was awseoem and comedy was introudced in the film via R2. He may be small but those battle droids stand no chance.
The Albino Rat - June 5, 2005 07:32 PM (GMT)
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About the grievous fight, yeah, the force is strong in kenobi and grievous is basically a machine. He has little strategy, probably no connection to the force, and is basically not even alive. Kenobi is a smart, quick thinking and powerful Jedi. The way he beat him was ok, because you can tell that he knew he would win anyway when he just jumps down and confronts him.
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like i said before Grievous is alive. Just mostly kept alive by machine. Do robots normally cough? And he does use the force. In the mini-cartoon seris about the clone wars (made somwhat for lil kids and only aired in the U.S. i think) grievous uses force push and similar powers. (i watched one or two of them, but my freind is an avid fan of Grievous though so naterually, he knows everthing bout Grievous. My freind is kinda strange though. He yelled "nooo, the lizard" when obi-wan and his mount fell into the water :wacko: .)
Grimgor Ironhide - June 5, 2005 09:22 PM (GMT)
I know Grievous is alive, but he's not really. Just a heart, a head, and some other random pieces of flesh held together by machinery.
I didn't know he could use the force. That's really weird . . .
Dreg - June 5, 2005 09:52 PM (GMT)
Yeah grivous si alove cus if u look carefulyl enoguh i nhte mvoie he ahs a pair of lungs and heart. And the clone series is also aired in the uk(saw soem of it) and to be honest i would of preffered grivoes to survie cus hes awseome.ANd ye she cna use jedi powers.
farsight - June 6, 2005 06:49 AM (GMT)
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| like i said before Grievous is alive. Just mostly kept alive by machine. Do robots normally cough? And he does use the force. In the mini-cartoon seris about the clone wars (made somwhat for lil kids and only aired in the U.S. i think) grievous uses force push and similar powers. (i watched one or two of them, but my freind is an avid fan of Grievous though so naterually, he knows everthing bout Grievous. My freind is kinda strange though. He yelled "nooo, the lizard" when obi-wan and his mount fell into the water .) |
have to say i am a big fan of th clone wars series and have watched them often and have never, never, seen grievous use any force powers, are you sure your freind didn't just see the jedi he was fighting fall over or something?
anyway i was exactly the same when the lizard fell of the platform, i didn't yell nooo though ^_^
Dreg - June 6, 2005 02:46 PM (GMT)
Yes in one epsidoe grivous does use a forc epsuh technique. But i think everyone would of preffered that lizard to survie rather than obi wna (that lizard rocks).
Funky the Elf - June 6, 2005 03:00 PM (GMT)
Im sure that lizard can swim, no? :)
The Albino Rat - June 6, 2005 04:17 PM (GMT)
Yea well see, my strange freind was mad a Obi wan for killing his favorate charicter (Grievous).
Yes i am sure Grievous can use the force. I saw an episode where he used force push. My freind (yes the strange one again) goes as far as saying that he can use force choke, but i dont think thats correct. But let me ask you this: is there any reason Grievous cannnot use the force? We've esablished that he is alive, and he is obviously force sensitive since he can weild a lightsaber. So why couldn't he use the force?
Dreg, no offense or any thing, but its getting really hard to read your post becasue of wrongly ordered letters. I don't want to insult you, but please, slow down or somthing when typing because it's getting difecult to read.
Tyrion - June 6, 2005 06:17 PM (GMT)
Grievious never used the force as far as I can remember :huh: he only stated that he had been taught the use of a lightsaber from a sith lord (sidious/palpatine). beeing able to wield a lightsaber doesnt make you a jedi ;)
Derek101 - June 6, 2005 06:48 PM (GMT)
From what I recall, Tyrion is right, Grievous had only been taught to wield a sabre (or two, three; actually four) and also from what I remember, he made rather crude versions for his robot bodyguards, which can't use the force. -_-
Also, whoever asked what grievous was doing with the top two lightsabers, I believe he was making a pretty cool shield to stop any serious blows to his
easy-to-touch vital organs. :fight:
I may be wrong <_<
EDIT: I don't know if I have to put this EDIT thing in but a made a spelling mistake. You see I put syop instead of stop as the two letters are very close together. HA! :lol: my life!
farsight - June 6, 2005 08:28 PM (GMT)
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From what I recall, Tyrion is right, Grievous had only been taught to wield a sabre (or two, three; actually four) and also from what I remember, he made rather crude versions for his robot bodyguards, which can't use the force.
Also, whoever asked what grievous was doing with the top two lightsabers, I believe he was making a pretty cool shield to stop any serious blows to his easy-to-touch vital organs.
I may be wrong
EDIT: I don't know if I have to put this EDIT thing in but a made a spelling mistake. You see I put syop instead of stop as the two letters are very close together. HA! my life! |
yey i was right ^_^ , anyway anyone can wield a lightsaber it isn't force powered, probally just duracel powered *fssst lightsaber short circuits in battle scene, not again :lol: . as i was saying anyone can wield a lightsaber but it takes skill to use it without damaging yourself, which is why grievous can use it.
and grievous has bodyguards as i have seen in the clone wars series, which are trained to battle jedi as they have double edged sword things which cannot be broken by lightsaber so are a perfect counter to them (anyone see the episode where the female jedi fought 10 or so bodyguard robots, that rocked)
anyway there my bit for the day
Grimgor Ironhide - June 6, 2005 10:03 PM (GMT)
He says dooku taught him, not sidious. Not that that matters . . .
I just figured that he wouldn't have had the connection to the force since he was so damaged and half-robot. Strength in the force comes from the midi-chlorians or whatever in your cells and yoda says that life creates it, so you'd think Grievous who is less alive and more machine than others wouldn't have a connection to it.
Dreg - June 7, 2005 10:20 AM (GMT)
Yeah true but the thing is griovues is half and hlaf when it coem down to being a machine hes half organic(the eyes lungs heart ceratin muscles) why do u think hes more athletic then the other robots9the fact he can jump).
Malfurion - June 7, 2005 11:59 AM (GMT)
Also, whoever asked what grievous was doing with the top two lightsabers, I believe he was making a pretty cool shield to stop any serious blows to his
easy-to-touch vital organs. duel.gif
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Actually i thought that whole fight was weird, at one point grievous was striking at his oponetn realy realy fats with 4light sabers, and when you look at qui-gon you see him blocking with one lightsaber that moves a lot slower. i looked kind of strange to me. I mean if he strikes him from 4 different sides at the same time it would be over inlike 2 sec....
And about the sword fighting, i agree that it looks bad and all the poeple in the movie arn't fighting very practical. But if you just try to look past that i find ep 3 to be an entertaining movie.
Grimgor Ironhide - June 7, 2005 06:30 PM (GMT)
it's obi-wan, not qui gon. and yeah, the movie was definitely entertaining, but I just don't think it lives up to the classic trilogy, I just watched the three originals again and they are awesome.