This is my first attempt at a dwarf list so...yeah that should explain it all.

Dwarf Lord w/ masterrune of spite, rune of stone, rune of resistance, rune of cleaving, rune of fury, and rune of fire(dont know why)

Thane w/master rune of gromil, greatweapon

Thane w/battle standard, Master runic banner of stromni redbeard

Runepriest w/rune of stone, masterrune of balance, 2 runes of speed, rune of striking

19 ironbreakers w/ full command

bolt thrower w/ rune of peircing
bolt thrower w/ rune of peircing, rune of burning
bolt thrower w/ rune of peircing, rune of seeking
bolt thrower w/ rune of peircing, rune of skewering

14 crossbowmen w/ shields

20 warriors w/ shields, heavy armour, standard
20 warriors w/ shields, heavy armour, standard

organ gun

lord and battle standard guy go with iron breakers. other thane and priest go in different warrior squads. Plz give advice.

man those bolt throwers, I don't like them, I would change them for 2 cannons or a cannon+st for the points spared you should give your warriors great weapons(those are just so much better ;) )
and why would you give your runesmith 2 runes of speed and a rune of striking?? :huh: just give him a great weapon and a rune of spellbreaking, that's enough.
and drop the crosbows for thunderers if you can.
and I suppose you gave all your charaters gromrill armour and a shield for the lord?
I would make it like this:

Characters:

Lord, mro spite, runes of stone, resistance, cleaving, fury.
comes with ga+shield.
270 pts
dropped the ro fire(and in case you didn't do it, added ga+s)

Thane, mr gromrill, gw, ga.
92 pts
looks good, nothing to change

Thane, bsb, ga, mro stromni redbeard.
188 pts
looks good too.

Runesmith, mro spellbinding, ro spellbreaking, ga, gw.
157 pts
changed mro balance in mro spellbinding, that one is so much more handy in larger battles, and gave him a ro spellbreaking, always handy, the gw for some extra punch in hth(if he ever sees close combat, that's why I haven't included a lot of armor.)

Core units:

12 thunderers, musician.
173 pts
in exchange for the crowbows, because they're so much better, but that's my experience and the musician because of the spare points( :P ) and it may come in handy.

2x20 warriors, gw, ha, shield, hw, fcg
490 pts
gave them great weapons for the extra punch

Special units: `

23 ib´s fcg ro battle.
354 pts
looks good only made them 4 more and gave them the ro battle for the extra CR for the dropped points of the organ gun.

2xcannon, 1 with ro forging, 1 with ro forging and ro burning
275 pts
2cannons are so much better than 4 bt´s

Total: 1999 pts

this looks IMHO a much better list ^_^
though I was thinking about droppinjg something(dunno what) for a organ gun.

And post in future also the point costs of everything, make everything a lot more handy.

thanks for the recomendations. Your totally right about the cannons, after i reviewed the points cost difference i was sold, and i already have the cannons so that made it all the easyer.

I did mean to say they had shields and gromil armour. oops. I would switch out the crossbowmen for thunderers but i already have the crossbowmen. If i ever have enough money i do plan on switching out for thunderers.

I'd rather have 4 bolt throwers then 2 cannons though. With 4 of them, and no misfires, you will be getting ALOT of hits and with some lucky, you could easily decimate an entire regiment each turn. Though if yoy are going to play with 4 bolt throwers, I'd throw in an engineer or two so you can use their BS for firing the bolth throwers.

Okay, in my opinion, bolt throwers are better than cannons, and I'll give you a couple of reasons.

1) Point cost. Minus runes, you get 2 bolt throwers per cannon, with 10 points to spare. Add runes on a couple, sure, but they don't all need runes of penetration. I'd say one with R of Penetrating/MR of Skewering, one with just R of Penetrating, and 2 runeless should be plenty.

2) No misfire. Granted, it's only 1/6 with a cannon, and you can make it 1/36, but that makes the cannon cost as much as 3 bolt throwers, and that just doesn't seem worth it.

3) Reliability. Sure, they're not always going to hit on BS3, but your opponent has to react to them regardless. If you have 4, you can have two different areas where they're set up, leaving your opponent to either divide his forces or risk flank shots.

As to the rest of the list:

First, a great weapon would do better in a lot of cases than the runic weapon on your lord, and saves you a lot of points. I'd make the change, especially since you'll probably be hitting last anyway.

Thane looks fine, though I'd probably drop the MR for a R of Stone. Save more points for more warriors.

BSB's fine, I guess. I generally avoid runic banners, as they make him vulnerable; I'd say just use a normal banner and give him either the MR of Gromril or a MR of Swiftness/Cleaving weapon.

The 'smith should have R of Stone, gw, gromril, then at least one R of Spellbreaking. The 50 point runes generally aren't worth their cost when compared with 4 or 5 more models on the table, in my experience.

Warriors look fine, I'd suggest 25 if you're fighting undead to avoid autobreaking.

IB's are a good choice, but you need them to be either minimum 25 or immune to fear.

I'd second thunderers over crossbows, but if it's a matter of models go ahead and use what you've got.

Organ gun isn't that good. I'd suggest a Stone Thrower if you want more artillery, or more warriors.

All just my thoughts.

Considering what you all have said what about this?

Characters

Dwarf Lord w/ mro spite, runes of stone, resistance, cleaving, fury.
comes with ga+shield.
270 pts.

Thane w/ mr gromil, gw
86 pts.

Thane w/ bsb, ga, mro stromni redbeard
188 pts.

Rune Smith w/ 2 runes of spellbreaking, stone, ga, shield, gw
139

Core

21 warriors w/ shield, heavy armour, gw, standard
241 pts.

21 warriors w/ shield, heavy armour, gw, standard
241 pts.

17 crossbowmen w/ shields
221 pts.

Special

21 iron breakers w/ full command, runic banner of courage

bolt thrower w/ rune of penetration
70 pts.
bolt thrower w/ rune of penetration, mr of skewering
95 pts.
bolt thrower
45 pts.
bolt thrower
45 pts.

Well, 17 crossbows is too big; there's no way you'll be able to move them so all can fire. I'd say to drop them to 12 again, definitely.

How many points do you have left now, anyway?

well oops i forgot to add iron brakers...

add to Special

21 iron breakers w/ full command, runic banner of courage (immune to psychology)

dropping to 12 its 71 points to spare.

Go ahead and use the edit function to add them into your initial post; it's at the top right, one of the blue buttons.

I'd probably recommend more runes on your Battle Standard if you're going that route. He's already a massive number of points if he gets killed, might as well make him as useful as possible.

I really don't know why you all like bolt throwers so much, I really HATE them, the RARELY hit and IF they hit, I always throw a 1, or maybe a 2, killing just 1 model, 4 bt's taking out a WHOLE regiment? NO WAY!! -_-

Vriishnak:a organ is really better than a st in my experience <_<
but I gues you're right about the bsb, he's expensive anyway, give him a at least rune of battle and the rune of courage, drop the ro courage on the ib's for the ro battle, for a standard +7 CR(3 ranks, standard, mro stromni, 2x ro battle and maybe outnumbering, flank/rear charge etc.)

Ill probably wind up taking cannons for no other reason that i have a 4 cannons(i have 4 b/c i bought them for 5 bucks each from game store that just switched owners ,who no one likes, and htey were getting rid of GW stuff).

so with the 71 spare points it takes 20 to switch to cannons. putting the rune of ill put the rune of courage on the bsb and put a rune of battle on the standard in the iron breakers so that means i have +6 to resolution. Sound good?

If you're using cannons, it's pretty much mandatory to use the Rune of Forging, bringing them to 135 points. Also remember that they take up a special slot each, so you can't replace the BT's 1-for-1 and keep the ironbreakers as well.

i know. i replaced the bolth throwers for 2 cannons. each with rune of forging and one with burning.