Alliance with the Conclave of the Light!

Under discussion with administrators of several different Tomb King groups and organisation it has been deemed prudent for the Khemri to ally their ancient power with the new Empire of Karl Franz.

To this end we have forged an alliance between our people and theirs. This has been ratified at the CoL website.

Read more of the story here.

Hooray for the forces of good.

so wat does this mean??? pardon me but im rather ignorant... will this affect the SoC??

What about the Vampires from the Blood Keep who have vowed to fight us in the Badlands? Doesn't sound like the CoL can (or will) uphold their end of the deal. Nothing but empty promises.

Who is this "we" you keep talking about. "administrators of several different Tomb King groups and organisation" are not the voice of the Tomb Kings. The members of those boards are the voice of the Tomb Kings. It is the individual players that make the choice as to what they are going to do. IF you get a consensus on a particular board and agree to follow the same path- then you can say "Web site XYZ will support this or that." But to make a blanket statement and agreeing to ally with the CoL through the voice of a few people with enough computer skill/money/time to throw up a board is idiotic and out of line.

You want to voice your opinion and put your vote behind the CoL- that is your business. I object to anybody spouting off and saying that I will do something that I have not agreed to. I resent you speaking for me when I haven't given you my voice.

Amun- you (and the other admins) are out of line and so is your board. You do not have the authority to make a decision for all Tomb King players. There are boards out there that have either not decided or who have decided to join as attackers.

Remember that the Blood Keep has given its members total freedom to do as they please. The CoL can garuantee that any VC's allied to it will not attack the Badlands.

i understand how u feel but i think its due to the serious lack of time. well you can still fight your own wars. At least simply post your battles in the badlads, isn't that easier

I see a large amount of panic going on due to the lack of time to prepare for the SoC campaign. For us (ie TK), I don't see why all the panic. The fluff in the campaign is that we attack the badlands. It looks like the choices in areas/cities/etc wont exist in the badlands- ie you fight a battle in the badlands and it is in the badlands. So- if we/you want to attack the badlands as TK- then no organizing needed. Attack in the badlands and it is done.

If you want to ally with the defenders and actually defend, then the CoL has a pretty good board that they will use to direct the defense and counter-attacks. Individual TKs can pledge themselves to the CoL and be part of the decision making process- pledging all the TK to the CoL doesn't gain anything more than each TK pledging themselves. An alliance could have waited until the last day before the start of the campaign (over a week from now) and would have been just as valid and useful.

and lastly- it appears to me that the campaign will be played out in a decision tree format (ie a defined path must be traveled- the attackers can not jump ahead to attack cities behind enemy lines). This will limit the number of locations open to attack (and defense) so will not require the large strategic planning that was required for the EOT.

To set the record straight: I did sign up with the defenders and I do plan on attacking the badlands. I just object to somebody I don't know, without my permission, making agreements in my name and telling other people what I am going to do. I have spent all my adult life defending democracy and I am not just going to sit here and let somebody take it from me. It may seem a minor point in this case to some, but it isn't too me.

dlinch:

I've tried to clarify this before and I've dropped the caveat I usually give at this point but if you want I'll give it again.

Of course I don't speak for you any more than I speak for anyone I don't know. Any more than the CoL speaks for every dwarf/empire/elf general out there. What myself, High Lord Axus and kingphesphestus, and lately Prince_Carrion (of yet another khemri board) have been trying to do is present an option of unification that can be taken up or discarded. Rather than khemri jumping all over the place we've tried to make a number of quite vocal and well-noticed sites all present the same options - that we might play our armies together rather than in discord.

To whit the alliance is what I said it is - one between the CoL and "administrators of several different Tomb King groups and organisation". We can't offer more than that and we don't intend to disenfranchise you. Nobody has claimed you will join the CoL, nobody claims they have your support. That said the decision to try and incorporate ourselves as a race into the CoL structure is one that doesn't come from the voices of us few but from the vast majority of input in polls and in discussion that's come from all the boards which strongly suggests that the majority of khemri players feel we should be playing as defenders.

I'm a firm advocate of democracy myself, dlinch. But a 'democracy of one' isn't democracy it's anarchy. While what we have here is admittedly more of an oligarchy of the sort I myself wouldn't willingly submit to in real life, it's due to the severe time restrictions we find ourselves in AND the fact that noone HAS to submit to anything if they don't want to. In the meantime, I'm going to keep doing what I've been doing with HLA, phesphestus et all: Trying to work out what the majority of khemri players seem to want to do and codifying it into a quick point of contact that as many people can follow as feel they want to.

dlinch: If you have any more problems, input or suggestions, I'll happily hear them in PM, email or MSN. I'm at dave@inqk.net. I'm not trying to ruin anyone's game here. What I am trying to do is promote unity, not push despotism.

No problems. Comments, opinions, and suggestions, but no problems. :-)

Amun- You are right- This is getting off topic and getting into a political discussion (never good on a public forum), so I will follow your suggestion and take this to a private discussion.

For the record (again)- I support the CoL and the fight against Chaos. I will be posting my battles in the Badlands and I hope all TK bring their mighty armies in support of regaining the lands that have been stolen from us. All shall once again bow to the might of Nehekharan.

Out of curiosity, who gets the badlands?

Settra!

I hate settra

Thus no agreement with me

Snotta

Snotta, it is not a question of weather or not you like Settra, it is a question on who we ally with (Okay, allied), Settra will be the one in control of the badlands regardless of who we ally with.