Yes, they're still continuing from the movie they shouldn't have made in the first place. The biggest waste of time and money, and they're still making sequels to it.

Am I blind? Am I missing the point here? Because if i'm not, somebody needs to tell me why Hollywood insists on continuing to make the stupidest movies in history, and why do they keep making money off of them?

These movies are not scary, the only thing i'm thinking while watching them is how stupid the people are, and how common sense has been tossed out the window.

Seriously, why do they keep making Saw films? The first one was a big enough waste of time, so why continue to waste time by making sequels? These films are along the same lines of Blair Witch Project (it pains me to say both of them, because they actually made a sequel to that movie), and The Ring (again... same story as the previous film.)

Slasher films seem to be the most popular type of horror movies right now, or from what I've seen. So that's why we're seeing films like these being made now. As for Saw, I really don't think a 4th one (or even more) is needed, it was fine at 2, maybe 3.

Though normally I kind of enjoy Saw because they're movies with people being tortured/killed in interesting ways. I find that fun to watch.

Hey Celtic Guardian, I think Halo fucking sucks and they shouldn't have made a 2 or 3.

See what I did there? Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean the whole world revolves around YOUR opinion.

I admit, Saw isn't a great as it's made out to be, nor do I think there needed to be 4 of them. Having that been said, this is a decent movie series that was never meant to be scary in the first place. Saw is a "horror" movie, but not the kind of horror movie that is intended to give you chills. It's meant to disturb and gross you out, and while I really think it's pretty mild, it seems to work on a lot of people.

Also, if you don't like the movies, why do you continue to watch them?

I have only watched the first Saw movie myself, which I rather enjoyed, but I do not plan on watching any of the sequels, despite being a big fan of Slasher/Horror movies myself (though I stay with the 80'ies horror movies, back when censorship only fucked a LITTLE of it up rather than cutting 3/4 of the entire movie).

The first Saw was intelligent, and as Teepo states, meant to disturb and gross you rather than actually frighten you and make you jump. And the first one was very intelligent in my opinion, and interesting. Whereas the sequels only become gross-out contests and lose all that made the first one good. While that does happen to most franchises, at least you were EXPECTING that with series like Nightmare on Elm Street and the like. But when Saw sets a frame and then destroys it completely, it just doesn't work for me.

That said, you should really have learned by now that in the movie business, everyone tries to milk out as much money from a succesful concept as possible. It's how things work. You don't have to like it (I don't), but that's still how it is.

Now, you have two options: Keep bitching about a series you dislike and insult everyone who DOES watch it, or stop watching it and spend your time doing something better than complaining.

My brother showed me and my sister the first saw movie, he told us to see if we could figure out who the killer was before the end of the movie.
We got stumped until it final showed that John Kramer was the actual killer, the point I'm trying to make here is that people sometimes like puzzling movies where you try to guess what's going on, but when you finally reach the end everything makes sense.

Plus I'm with wolf on this one, watching them die is fun 8D

Also agree with Wolf, the traps are always incredibly interesting to see. However I do wonder how they're going to make a fourth after the way the third one ended.

As for Celtic Guardian's comment, I do think bringing it to a fourth might be a bit much. We might end up with another Friday the 13th series here. However, until I see Jigsaw out in space I don't think I'll see much of a problem with having a new slasher series.

Oh, and as for the movie itself, I love the surprise endings personally.

Surprise ending.... did nobody else get the killer was the cancer patient when they first showed him? Because the janitor seemed too small minded to come up with any of that stuff, and the cancer patient just had 'that' kind of actor you expect to play the crazy sadistic psycho killer. Did nobody get the girl in the second one did all that, because the first guy was on life support for crying out loud! How could he have put all that together by himself!? If hardly call that a surprise ending.

I wtched the first one because i'm always curious about the movie. I found that to be the biggest waste of time of my life. I watched the second one to see just how they could have possibly continued the series from a bad movie in the first place. Needless to say, I was still dissappointed.

I do not complain about these movies, I merely try to warn people away from them, to not waste time nor money on epic failures like the Saw series, and the other 'horror' films that people claim will 'scare' you. The whole 'scary' thing nowadays is surprising people, which last i checked, ISN'T SCARING. You want a scary movie, go rent a classic like Alien, stay away from the modern 'horror' films.

Your opinion is not the sole basis of the universe. Get over it, Celtic. I found the movies to be hilarious.

Everyone else could say the same about your precious, precious Halo 3, Nancy.

Did I say anywhere that my opinion is the basis of the universe? Reading over it, I see no such claim.

Ya know, I look at this topic and see a bunch of fool. Celtic isn't trying to undermine anyone's opinion. He's simply trying to say his opinion about a series of films that should have ended with the first. Slasher/Horror are not scary. They're sick and disgusting and are a waste of time, and money. Now I don't see this all as bitching or complainning, he's just exspressing his opinion. Also Eshbaal he wasn't insulting ANYONE I didn't see a single statement that would lead me to believe he is insulting anyone. If I wanted to be disgusted, you know what I'd do I'd join the army and go to Iraq, but then again I don't so I won't join the army. Also I don't see why anyone would think that it's funny to see a person cut to tiny gorey pieces and killed. That only says to me your psychotic and need meds (Oh did I go there! I think I just did!) It's not funny, It's rather disgusting and even if they aren't dead and they're fictional characters. Its a disturbing and disgusting Idea I do not share with anyone here.


-You may commence with your idiotic bitching at me saying how much of a dumbass I am.

You can't seriously say that there are any REAL horror movies out there... its just that the movies don't scare anymore, Saw seems to be very good at grossing out the audience not to mention it has a good plot

- Bottom Line, When you find a movie that can literally scare you, come tell me

Well I get your point but think of it this way. If a sadistic phsycopath kidnapped you would you think clearly?

Probabley not Although there were some parts like the boiler in number I would have done differently than the person

The bad speller has a point, people normally wouldn't think straight when they get kidnapped and are about to DIE.

Normally, yes, but I have one good point. The second one. There was a needle at the back of a furnace. The guy climbed in throuhg the hatch, burned to death, broke the glass at the other end to try and escape.

Question: There was breakable glass at the safe end, that you could use to safely reach for the needle, so why not use that, instead of risking your life on an obvious trap?

Because Celtic, the script was written by idiots!

Ah, right, Fireyone set me in my place here. Sorry, I guess I got carried away.

Anyway, some find them entertaining: I liked the first movie as I already said, but I do agree that they are not particularly scary, as are incredibly few movies nowadays. I am still baffled as to how people can claim that the americanized version of The Ring is frightening in any way whatsoever. Personally, the NEWEST movie that actually gave me the chills is from 1992, namely Candyman (Laugh it up, it certainly creeped ME out), and since then most has just been... pathetic.

Besides, you don't even have to watch a HORROR movie to find something scary. When you think about a movie like Clockwork Orange, some things in that are far scarier than any horror story I can think of.

As for Saw, well... let it run. Nobody's forcing anyone to watch it or care about it. The series may run for a long while (Child's Play - 5 movies, Friday the 13th - 10 movies x FvJ, Nightmare on Elm Street - 7 movies + FvJ, Hellraiser - 8 movies and so on and so on...) so you might as well get used to it being there. Just... don't watch it. It's that simple.

Well then, let's not get into a huge, pointless fight and about a movie series. Celtic, it just seems like you think that your opinion on the movie is the only one that matters. I dunno.

The only Saw movie that I watched was Saw 2 and I liked it. It didn't scare me or creep me out, but I still liked it. What I was entranced by was what seemed to be the constant struggle of logic vs. emotion throughout the movie. 'Should I run in there ecstatic that I can finally achieve freedom or should weigh my options and play it safe?'

Emotion usually won out and made them do stupid things, but it's all good for me.

Yey! Another reason to like you!

Anyways.

Notice how the title says Saw 4?

Notice how no one's talking about it?

If you want to bitch and moan about Saw, go make a seperate topic for it.

Anyways, the only part of Celtic I agree with is the fact that Saw 4 should not be made. Saw 3 ended the series with the deaths of Jigsaw and the girl. OFUCK WATE SPOILERS. Don't care.

I don't see how they could make a fourth, is if a copy cat killer were to arise. Meaning, probably, that the traps won't be as intricate, so not as fun.

Actually, Celtic's beginning post (which decides what the topic is) is about his bitching of the Saw series. He used the topic title of Saw 4 to hook people into a rant of his how he can't like a certain thing. Thus the discussion is not about Saw 4 at all, but about the Saw series in general.

Though I do admit that I wonder what the fuck they're doing making another one. I thought the hip thing to do in Morning Wood Land was to make trilogies.

Here is the trailer for Saw 4 if anyone wants to know how it starts.

...I'm even more confused. They're making Saw V and VI.

JIGSAW IS DEAD YOU FUCKERS.

HOW?!

The series was good when a Trilogy. It made sense. It ended. Why. Whyyyy?

By the end of the series, we'll most likely find out that Jigsaw was able to create an intricate system where a clone is made each time the previous one dies. Thus we find out that Jigsaw is actually a computer program testing the limits of the human psyche with his puppet clones.

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oh shi-