hello

I'm so sorry, Mr. Strange. Members usually crowd around newcomers...I wonder why they're not now....?

Welcoma Strangeness Alive Within

I turn the the hallway corner to sleep,
Hands on pages thin,
When who should turn the corner but
Strangeness Alive Within.

I ask him how he's doing.
He says he's feeling strange.
"Strange? How?" I straightly said,
As I walk to go to bed.

"I don't know. It's just within,"
He said and threw a can at the bin.
How is he strange? I do not know.
I'm sure that he has much more to show.

Welcome to the nest! Post often, follow the rules, and most importantly, have a good time!

Hey there! Ho there!
I'm Neon (duh!)
This is a great place. Have fun and welcome!

Welcome to the Nest. Great place I've got here. If I do say so myself. :}

OW! :!: :gssweatdrop: *broke my arm from patting myself on the back too hard*

Oh no... is there a white mage around?
Well, Strangeness Alive Within, welcome. ^_^ Great name. The strangeness is within you, right?

Welcome Strangeness Alive Within
Post alot stay around and enjoy the forums!

Welcome to you! You can have a bit of e. I don't feel like writing it out this time...

What's with you saying stuff like e. c. ? It's annoying.

Yeah, I say we gather up an angry mob and go after him and his fancy lurnin and math.

Well... I wanted to be more creative with what I handed out than just pi, that Canti suggested, so I gave Phlegethon pi (someone deleted that post), and am giving other people other constants.

I see. I forgot what e is. Was it the base of natural logarithms? Its been so long since I took a non-statistics math course, I forgot how it is used :bigsad:

I don't know much about using e either, but yes I believe it's the base of the natural logarithm. Apparently if you raise it to an imaginary power it makes a number with absolute value 1. (pi)i is the exponent for -1. I don't really understand why that is, so don't ask me to explain it. I learned it from my elementary school advanced math teacher, nicknamed Doc Science.

Didn't know there were any maths buffs in here. I've got a puzzle for you, and if you can solve it then you are the unofficial Lucasian Professor of Mathematics (move over Hawking).
What is the square root of -4? Have fun.

Threeve. A combination between 3 and 5.

That... is incredibly easy... 2i
Or no, actually it's ±2i

just because it isn't a Real number it doesn't mean it doesn't have an answer, as ...perhaps showed.

Yeah I'm wondering if Amida necessarily knows that. I would guess so.
Here's a more interesting one. What's the square root of i?



Answer(In hard to read color so it's easy to not read):
±(1+i)/square root of 2

There is no way to answer my question with real numbers, because the answer is an imaginary number. Also, I do not know the answer to your question Perhaps, as I am a biologist not a mathematician.

Yes... if you read, the answer is not that it isn't a real number, the answer is ±2i. To your question that is. If you want the answer to mine, just read the gray. Highlight it if it's too hard to read. It's kinda disappointing I'll tell you.

I really don't know where do you learn all of this things from, I'm 15 and I only know the square root of negative numbers 'cause one day our profesor told us that there were more thanreal numbers so I asked my brother and he kinda thougth me, are there any other imaginary numbers beside the roots of negative numbers?

Well, you were right Perhaps, the answer isn't quite as interesting as I would have expected but it makes sense at least. Also, DJA, I'm not really a hardcore mathematician but I can recommend the books of Hawking if you're looking for a crash course in imaginary numbers. I think I recall them being mentioned somewhere. Or you could just consult Perhaps, I'm sure he has a few more examples of imaginary numbers.

I learned most of what I know beyond my level from my special math teacher, nicknamed Doc Science. In elementary school, because I was very capable in my regular math class, I got to go sit in the hall and learn from him in math class on certain week days (I'm not the only one who got this privilege). He's a genius. I think he used to work for NASA. He taught me all kinds of interesting stuff, like imaginary numbers. In 7th grade (I think that's the right year) he also taught those of us who went to his classes at the time about j and k, which I think don't really qualify as imaginary numbers, and they're more square roots of negative one anyway, but they were interesting, although I can't say I understood them as well. Multiplication between numbers including j or k wasn't commutitive. I also was taught about imaginary numbers last year in my advanced algebra/algebra 2 class. It's actually an advanced math course, though, not a few on one maybe-esoteric mathematical miscellanea chat, so it's not specialized to how much the students know, but rather an organized class meant to follow a pace everyone can handle. I spent a lot of my time trying to make an equation that, when graphed, would create a tilted elipse. Eventually I figured this out with my older brother, and it requiired some trig functions, although I think I could take advantage of what I call "the rotation property of complex numbers" to do it without any trig. Have I been rambling?

At any rate, I would love to be a math stuff consultant; I would even make a topic for it if I thought I would get consulted a lot. I think that "imaginary numbers" include only multiples of i and their opposites, such as i, 2i, 3i, -67i, (pi)i, -(e)i, etc. There are, however, plenty of other non-real numbers. For example, the sum of a real number and an imaginary number is called a complex number. Another thing on the note of imaginary numbers: Y'know the number line? Basically just a line(infinite distance in two oppostie directions) with a center point that is zero and the one direction (usually right) represents greater number value, and the other (usually left) represents lesser number value: negative numbers. Well if you want to represent i, its multiples, and their opposites on the number line, you have to add a perpendicular line on which the direction ninety degrees counter-clockwise from the positive direction represents i, 2i, etc. (usually this direction will be up) and the direction opposite it represents -i, -2i, etc. (usually this direction is down) This creates, instead of a number line, a number plane. Complex numbers are in the space on neither of the two perpendicular lines.

I see. You're saying that imaginary numbers exist within what would be the y axis to the real number line's x axis right. So within this 2D plane of numbers there are both real and imaginary numbers. I may be getting above myself, but could this 2D plane of numbers possibly have a Z axis, giving 3 axes and 3 dimensions? If so, what kind of numbers exist on this Z axis?
Anyway, I think you would make a perfect Mathematics consultant for the nest. What could your official title be, I wonder? Mathematics Minister, Commissar for Mathematics? Your choice, but I suppose its really up to Marlin to designate such titles. I want to be the biology consulatant, or genetcis consultant if thats too general.

I think the maths could use its own thread; Mr. Strange's welcome can't stay hijacked much longer. :gssweatdrop:

Yes! The j that I mentioned above is on the Z axis. k Is on a fourth dimesnional axis. As I said above, I unfortunately never got such a firm grasp of handling them as I did with imaginary numbers. My teacher refused to deal with j without k, though; I think multiplying some three dimensional numbers by some one or two dimensional ones got you fourth dimensional ones. I think still have a chart of multiplications for numbers with up to four dimensions. I'll scan that or make a neater copy on the computer.

Is that chart understandable?

Ah huh, you peopleshould no not to venture of the topics discussion unless it's CORA so I suggest this topic be closed by one of the many moderators around the nest.

It doesn't have to be closed, just moved, or abandoned real quick(like before now) by those of us discussing the math stuff. I am sorry (both apologetic and regretful) that I dragged someone else's newbie topic to the sands of time. I feel like a jerk or something. It's just that starting a new topic for a discussion-in-progress is so impractical.

i agree with Ashes_Of_Fire but in a way i disagree you can change the topic every now and then although doing random topics can be sort of a bother also the person who started the topic can change it if he wishes

Not true at all eliwoodmaster, your not aloud to randomly change topics only unless it's CORA :bigsleep: No one at all can change the topic in a subject such as this, you must always keep on topic to what the very first poster has said.
You said also the person who started the topic can change it if he wishes,
that person could be a she too you know and and your not aloud to change it even if you are the starter.

So I reccomend you read and re-read what I just said to understand about topic changing and the fact it's not aloud in general.

o.k i did that so can we get back on topic please

Well you ca't get back on topic, it's just a random chat now.
So what do we want to talk about?

how about star craft and war craft

I borrowed WarCraft III the other day form a friend, I continously played it online for a while, then decided that Tower Defence was my favourite type of match.

Starcraft: Ghost looks a million times better than the other starcrafts, I havn't played a starcraft yet but i'm sure it's a definetly great game.

starcraft has the second greatest online mode first is war craft III but in the way of storys they are tied

I really think that Marlin should delete topics that make there way to this section.

i agree maybe u should give marlen an e-mail about it

You can hardly compare Starcraft: Ghost to Starcraft like that. I mean, obviously you can like one more than the other, but they can't really be better than one another in the same way that two games of the same type can, because in this case it's mostly a question of what style of game you like. I like Starcraft, but I'm not very interested in Starcraft: Ghost.

star craft ghost is an adventure 1st or 3rd person shoter cross (i caqn't remeber witch one though so don't ask and u can call reenforcements at random

Honestly quit agreeing with me! You said that and then you continue to post.

Also it isn't an e-mail It's a PM on here, much more conveinient.