im going prol running w/ carters commandos

I'll be there. Vacation time is already aproved from work. Running with the Crawlers again. Praying I don't fall and land hard on my back and knock the wind out of myself again. As for which side, no idea. Whatever side the team captin decides on.


Comovartia B)

I'll be there. I think DOTW is defending during the fall. If that's the case then so won't I be defending.

When will it be in '06?And will the marshals be there as a large group?

Spring Castle is always the last weekend in April and Fall castle is the first weekend in Oct. we will have our 2006 schedule posted in the next month

I'm hoping to make it

Instead of wracking my back in the bunks again, I may just toss some basics in the backpack and bring the motorcycle down for the day.

I know there will be a CanCon turnout at Fall Castle....as for numbers, we're still working on it!

Zipped - looks like I'm running with the CanCon this year. Better get off my butt and order that jersey!

Andy ~ I will give the reminder to Tony for the tuque....and YES!!! Order that Jersey! :)

Pub Crawling will be there, though the descision as to which side has not been made.....

-Rath

Well, It looks like everyone will have a team to be running with. I'm sure, however, I'll meet up with most of you one day or another. I'll run solo and with a pump, although it probably won't be stockclass.

I'm debating on using the Illusion Pro w/9oz tank and 12v Ricochet AK hopper, or......nothing but a pair of Splatmasters! Also, if I can't get a CanCon jersey in time, I'm wearing my old red bathrobe with the #69 and "Hefner" on the back. If I can't hit the defenders, I can at least bewilder them long enough for someone else to get a good shot.

Golden, I plan on being there, and I'll run with ya for the battle. Maybe we can tag along with CanCon too.

Sheazer and Golden ~ I'd love to run with you guys! B)

Marlo - is CanCon actually going to try and defend that hunk o' wood this time, or are they attacking? This will help decide what shooter(s) to bring.

That's a good question!?! :blink: At this point I am not sure...what side does CanCon usually play on? I am still "learning the ropes"....I think CanCon is a fan of the "Attacker" side, but I could be wrong! :D

Perhaps Puffin or Machine would be better suited to answer this one....

Andy ~ this is the latest just in from the CanCon forum...

...I've asked Mike to see if we can have the Number 2 wall again to defend but no word back yet. It's also up to the defending teams/clubs to see if we can join in so we'll see.

I'd rather defend than attack but to tell you the truth, both are equally fun. One is just more physically demanding than the other...lol


So it looks like we might be on the defending side....I'm game either way. I just wanna PLAY!!! :D

If defending, then it's either the KP2 or dual Splats. Gotta luv those target-rich enviroments.

Sounds good to me!

Don't worry about "being on a team" necessarily. Teammates have their advantages and drawbacks. Just be sure to have some fun.

You don't need to have 5 other people join you when you charge the wall. :D

or when you play the cowbell



sorry that thing gets me everytime you post

:( oh i will make sure we have soemthing for you Andy lol. Although i would really like to see he bathrobe idea coem to fruition

:pow: Yes Andy we are defending. Last Fall we held them off for 3 hours and not 1 prop was removed.!!! Actually they never made into the walls either. Lets hope wecan do it again. -_-

JERSEY TITANS LEADING DEFENSE
EMR'S CASTLE CONQUEST XX OCT. 1

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It looks like the Illusion Pro this year. As odd as it sounds.....I may actually have to buy a battery for my..gulp..hopper! :o

I am pondering the idea of taking out the SL68 2 out . Hmmm
Looking forward to another adventure in Emr. Great people,good times,and paintball.

This should be interesting, this will be my first time for defending at Conquest. Only question is pump or pistols?(friends say I have to use a high r.o.f. semi for defence, I say NOT!)

You do not HAVE to, but it does help on the defense. ;)

You will be in a target rich environment and your survival-exposure time will likely be short if you're on a wall which gets hit hard. You want to make every shot count.

Pistols can be useful inside the walls, well away from the doors, however once you're duking it out for ground inside the walls, things have gone badly for the defenders.

See you inside. (Looks like I may be attacking again.....)

-Rath

it is in your and your side's best interest TO use a semi.. you dont have much time to pick your shots nor do you have much time to camp a single spot. As you defend you'll be popping out from cover, firing off whatever you can in 1 second then popping back into cover to protect yourself from the case of paint or so coming at you... the more people you can take out during that second or so your shooting, the more helpful you'll be to your team.

if you aren't eliminating people quick enough, then you are a hindrance to your side. remember, you have 4 times as many people shooting in than shooting out. to be useful you need to take out atleast 4 times as many people for every time you reinsert..

Castle really is about ROF, how much paint you can have in the air at once and agression.

Learn from Castle XVI.

=P

heh.. wrote it out, forgot to post it, came back, posted it and it became redundent info.

=P

4:1? Not necessarily. If the defense gets to insert twice as often, they'd only need 2:1 to really make things "even".

Then again, more frequent reinsertions don't really help since the attacks will all come in big waves. The odds aren't really 4:1 when you figure that if 70% of the attackers hit a single wall containing 25% of the defenders, the odds would become -locally- 11.2:1. Then again, if you could really get a real charge together with 70% of the attacking force, the game would be over.


There's nothing that comes close to being on top of the wall when it's dripping with paint, the whole wall is shaking and swaying and you can barely hear anything over all the noise. It's the Valhala of paintball... Can't wait for XX!

ahh.. but do you see you problem.. you set your goals way too low.. ;)

Hmm.. going by your logic I should be eliminating 11 people for every insertion.. if I don't do that I'm useless.. (time to adjust my goals...) =)

=P

uh oh, we've created a monster! :lol:

But you're basing your target on eliminations per insertion. Really, it should be eliminations per minute. Both sides will reinsert at set intervals so the only way to keep the attackers out is to eliminate them as quickly as possible. Whether you are eliminated yourself or not makes no difference. The hit counters reset every time that window opens. If a defender is not eliminated once in an entire 6-hour game, yet eliminates 20 opponents, they're still not helping enough because they're not eliminating players fast enough.

If you have 1000 attackers, 250 defenders, 20 min & 10 min insertions respectively, the defenders need to either eliminate or keep at bay 1000 players every 20 minutes, right? That's one elimination every 5 minutes for each defender, whether they're in the dead box or not. For a good mental "target" that you could easily tell every defender to keep in mind, say that they need to make an elimination every five minutes. If you're on a wall getting charged, that number needs to double to even the odds. If every defender followed that, the castle could never be taken because the attackers would just keep running out of people.

The defenders can't loose if each one makes one elim. every 5 minutes, 2 elims if they're being charged.

What I think is most critical is the first wave. The attackers have the biggest advantage on the first wave but they never seem to use it. They have all their players coming from one location, they have time to organize, they have the defense spread out (many outside the walls) and they all have a full load of paint and air. Yet they always sell themselves short. The objective on the first insertion is always "take the town". They get control of the town and then slow down to regroup. And then rather than regrouping, they surround the castle on all sides. That just makes it easy for the defenders! Mass charges are how the castle falls every time.

Think how quickly the game would be over if a big snake of 1000 people, 4 abreast, just ran straight up the road and into the castle, firing as fast as they could. Could they be stopped? I don't think so. It wouldn't be as much fun, or very safe, but it would win the game...

The attackers can't loose if they stay organized.

Ever tried to control 800 people? You know you're going to get chunks decided they want to branch off from the original plan and do their own thing. Those all add up, probably only 600 left. Many of which are newer players, at least new to Castle, and don't honestly have the balls to just suck it up and charge (to put it in easiest terms).

It's possible for the charge, I would imagine, to take Wall 1. But during the attack the people from the doorway, the walls, and up top walls AND the towers will be doing 1 thing. Shooting at this pool of people. And shooting A LOT! Wall 1 tends to be heavily guarded, and if you have 75 players all across that wall shooting... they don't have to be accurate. 'Oh you missed that guy? No matter it hit another!'

I would sooner imagine it would just be one giant massacre, rather than an instant game winning move. As long as people actually move out of the path and leave as soon as they are shot, officially. However we both know that some people will not feel the shot(s) as others will just ignore them (sorry, but cheaters do play at every field nation wide just about).

ahh, but Trojanman, inserting is a personal goal of mine in any scenario or big game I attend. That goal is to make as many insertions as possible during the game. Defending Castle, I average 2 insertions per window, most MXS games I make 80% of the daylight insertions... If I'm not inserting, I'm not pushing hard enough... =)

=P

All perfectly true, of course. Heck, asking even a handful of players to work together can be completely futile even in a normal game. It would be interesting to see if it would work, is all.

And hey, as long as there's no point penalty for being eliminated, I agree =P. Pushing too hard and getting hit is better than hanging back and not helping out your team. I don't think I hold the same passion for racking up raw insertion numbers, though...

im running w/ the commandos for this event, w/ my huricane

all i know is that i'll probably get bored inside the castle because i'll be using a pump, which will most likely force me to do something really really stupid.

"all i know is that i'll probably get bored inside the castle" How ?? There is going to be plenty of targets to shoot at. 4-1 odds means semi or pump it's going to be a paint flinging fest.
I hope CanCon get's wall 2. Alot of action there. 2 spots to try to overun,means alot of action.