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waarp8nt - August 26, 2008 01:11 AM (GMT)
Bought this baby a year or so ago off of eBay. What is it? BTW I know its a pump marker (sorry, but just in case). I'd like to know the name brand, what years were they made, value and any other info? Thanks in advance for any help!

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Lone Goose - August 26, 2008 01:17 AM (GMT)
The single cocking rod makes me think of a Phantom rather than a Hammer, Traccer, Maverick, etc.

I will need to leave the final call up to the experts.

papaintballer - August 26, 2008 02:26 AM (GMT)
looks like a hammerI to me..

id say value 20-80 depending on buyer. Ive always wanted one but never found one for sale in time :(

waarp8nt - August 26, 2008 03:57 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the info! I forgot to mention there is no markings on it (as far as serial numbers or I.D. information), it came with a different grip that had a slide panel on the bottom and the barrel doesn't remove.

Chefdave - August 26, 2008 03:16 PM (GMT)
IIRC that's an older gun very similar to a Phantom.

I can't recall the name though.

JOESPUD27 - August 26, 2008 05:31 PM (GMT)
Apex came to mind when I looked at it..

Jay

Chefdave - August 26, 2008 06:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JOESPUD27 @ Aug 26 2008, 12:31 PM)
Apex came to mind when I looked at it..

Jay

Frame looks like it but Apex wasn't undercocking.

STLPlayer007 - August 26, 2008 07:24 PM (GMT)
USI Raider ?

STL

chrislognshot - August 26, 2008 10:20 PM (GMT)
if ok with you i ask mcb about it look like phantom not sure in that pic does the body come apart or

chrislognshot - August 26, 2008 10:23 PM (GMT)
ok not apex for sure

papaintballer - August 26, 2008 10:46 PM (GMT)
i thought mirage at first.. but the were longer. still looks like a old hammer I to me.. but then again they had interchangable barrels if i remember correctly.

Tom222 - August 26, 2008 11:22 PM (GMT)
I'm with Kent.......USI Raider.

waarp8nt - August 27, 2008 01:46 AM (GMT)
The tank adapter comes off with the rear screw, the trigger frame is metal and it looks like the front screw that holds on the trigger frame is some random replacement (not original). The eBayer that I bought it from lives in the St.Louis area if I remember correctly.

Thanks for the input, hopefully we'll come up with the correct answer. I'll try to get a picture of the original (or at least the one I bought it with) grip, though I've been having trouble using my ftp with foxfire. It may be a day or two b/c I have to email myself the pic and host it at work using IE7.



STLPlayer007, the guys from Total Grief playing at the CPPA IL & MO chapter gathering? I'm kind of counting on Jubes being there, we may finally get a chance to meet up.

STLPlayer007 - August 27, 2008 02:11 AM (GMT)
Jubes should be there. Greif will not as far as I know. We are all busy doing other tournaments and are pretty booked up thru the end of the year. :)

I would say a Raider as it was a phantom clone made back in the day.And that gun looks almost identical to the Phantom.

STL

BigOldSkool - August 27, 2008 03:50 AM (GMT)
Diablo Deluxe...

They were under cocking and had the apex-ish frame

Gazoo - August 27, 2008 05:57 PM (GMT)
I was thinking ACI hornet. That was undercocking unlike the traccer. Trigger frame looks odd though. May be one of the knock offs like the diablos as well.

waarp8nt - August 29, 2008 10:32 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the input everyone!

rcel - September 5, 2008 02:50 AM (GMT)
It's a Diablo Deluxe, 100% a Diablo.




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