Title: Radical Dreamers
Description: Literally
GalaxyFalcon - November 6, 2005 05:45 AM (GMT)
Hey guys! Im posting over at the college on wolfs PC. I don't have a lot of time - parents are waiting in the car...but, i figured i should share this idea with you.
Friday, I was in the shower. thinking...what could the CTRP do without getting a C&D again, but still chrono related?
Well, I know Demiforce, the guy who, for those of yo who dont know, translated Radical Dreamers, started but soon quit a SNES version of Chrono Cross.
He was hoping to re-create the game with Chrono triggers graphics, basically.
Okay, well that aside. Wouldn't you guys, or, atleast the team, still like to do a fangame?
Well, has anyone thought of remaking Radical Dreamers? I mean, Remaking it with graphics from chrono trigger. I know Temporal Flux is a powerfull tool, but even if you didn't use that, there should be some way to make it work, either making your own engine or using somone elses, or whatever.
But, i mean, the game is relatively short, so it wouldnt take that long to make it. And you wouldnt even have to make all the weird endings or anything.
Magil could basically be dressed up like Guile from CC, and float around your party. When he cast magic, he does the little glove-thingy like he does in CT.
I mean, think about it, we (Theorectical we, of course) Could make a pretty good CT-style Radical Dreamers. We could port the music, and borrow heavily from CT's graphics.
And for all those little Text-Choice actions, like at the end - where you either ask kid about the Frozen Flame or ask Magil about the kingdom of Zeal.
It could be triggerd so your party stops and Magil and Kid stand to either side of the hall - depending on who you talk to depends on what information you get, before moving on, therby adding replay value, so you can come back and get the other persons answer.
I just thought it would be a great idea, i mean, technically its a fangame like Crimson Echoes or Chrono Crisis - neither one of which have been shut down ...well, yet anyway.
So why not to RD, in CT graphics? It would be fun, and would give all those lazy people who didnt read through RD a chance to get the storyline by actually playing, with graphics!
I just thought it was ingenious. Id be short, too, so it wouldnt take a lot of Team development time, either.
Okay, well, i gtg before i get in trouble, lol. Take care guys, tell Wolf to tell me what you think. Hopefully somone likes the idea.
Stoney - November 6, 2005 06:48 AM (GMT)
It's a nice idea, but it'll never happen.
For one thing, how would the battles work? Radical Dreamers was a radical (excuse the pun) departure from a standard RPG format. Events in battles happened randomly, how the heck could we program that to work with CT's engine? You wouldn't even be able to control what Magil and Kid did, only what Serge does.
For another thing, the game is composed entirely of those "choices" you mentioned. You can go through the game in a thousand different ways, and every single one of them would have to be programmed into the game.
Not to mention that nothing remotely close to Viper Manor exists in CT. We'd have to create the environments from scratch. And I don't know where we'd get sprites for Kid, Serge and Magil from, 'cuz they don't exist in CT either. We'd probably have to customize existing sprites within CT, and that can take a very long time.
I dunno...maybe if someone was so fanatical as to be willing to devote hundreds of man-hours to such a feat...then yes, it would be possible. But it would be a massive undertaking. Maybe if Temporal Flux version 2.0 was available...
Negus - November 6, 2005 08:36 AM (GMT)
Hey, brethren,
I got the flu, seen? Well about this topic at hand...
I never even played the original Radical Dreamers, which I would love to, but the team could still get a C&D, you dig? Seems like we're really stuck...
Galidan - November 6, 2005 06:21 PM (GMT)
Some guy tried doing a 2d remake of Ocarina of Time, but that got C&D'd as well.
/Galidan
Knives - November 6, 2005 11:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Galidan @ Nov 6 2005, 01:21 PM) |
Some guy tried doing a 2d remake of Ocarina of Time, but that got C&D'd as well.
/Galidan |
Actually no, I know him personally from another forum I mod at. He was just an asshole who lied about the whole thing.
Magus5311 - November 6, 2005 11:58 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Stoney @ Nov 6 2005, 06:48 AM) |
| Radical Dreamers was a radical |
.......
Stoney should be stoned for that statement.
The stoned where we kill him, not get him high.
Anywho, how awesome that would be, but I'm afraid we'd still get the C&D... And since we've already gotten one, I then Square Enix will be pretty pissed to give us a second
WolfPack - November 7, 2005 03:33 AM (GMT)
Well demiforce was doing it? Can't be all that bad could it? I mean, really, all this talent around here, seems like the forumers should give it a try.
Negus - November 7, 2005 10:25 PM (GMT)
Well, brethren...I hate to say it but it seems like there's only one answer, seen? We are screwed -_-
GalaxyFalcon - November 8, 2005 12:54 AM (GMT)
Well this sucks.
Besides...i never said anyone had to announce it...
A few copies downloaded before closure would, most certainly, procreate througout the net...
Negus - November 8, 2005 12:56 AM (GMT)
:huh: ......Hm.... Yes I..... He's got a point...
GalaxyFalcon - November 8, 2005 01:10 AM (GMT)
Yes. And, I love stoney (Take it in context, guys) But I do disagree about the time thing. If somone who knew what they were doing were able to Suck out the graphics from CT, you could just used 600AD and Zeal Graphics to create Viper Manor. Remodeling the CT charecters wouldnt take that long for a sprite artist, either. look, Demiforce did it for his "Chrono Master" He had Kid, Serge, and Lynx.
There wouldnt even need to be the "New Game Plus" thing. There could be just the main, concrete story.
As for the battles, I don't see a reason why you couldnt control Magil and Kid as well as Serge. The battles could play out as regular battles, too.
And, also note. If somone undertook this, i mean, you could use your imagination. I mean, add a boss here, a little un-plot changing text there. It of course wouldnt BE Radical Dreamers, but it would be very similar, and it would be the same basic story - with graphics.
I thought it would be a good idea on the grounds of Fan-Game. I mean, you can change enough stuff so its not a True remake. Look at all the other Fan Games. Not just Chrono Trigger. I don't see a reason why this would ge a C&D. I mean, they don't even acknowlewdge the stupid game over here in the US anyway. The guy who created it was embarased about it.
I just think there are enough grounds to work with. If there were enough dedicated people, it could get done rather fast. One or two Sprite Artists. Somone to sort out the apropriate CT and RD music and such. A writier to log RD's text. Somone to program. I mean, look.
There wouldnt be to many positions to fill. Its a tiny little 3 hour text game, for crying out loud. Lets get some Chrono diehards on this ball.
I mean, we're part of the Chrono Trigger Remake Project.
Lets REMAKE somthing, dammit!
WolfPack - November 8, 2005 08:07 AM (GMT)
When did you get on the internet?
However, I do agree.