Start of the discussion.

What do you think should be done?

I think that since the objectionable material (I haven't checked it out myself) is not directly linked to, that inserting a warning next to the link is the most appropriate course of action.

While I'm concerned about the precedent of censoring posts, I don't think simply providing a warning is sufficient. I'd be in favoring of asking LR to remove the post and asking the Minister of Justice to work with the board in drafting a policy for delaing with issues like this in the future.

I doubt LR had intended to include a link to links to such material, but I'm sure the link should be removed

My choice would be to remove that thread completely *with the poster's permission* or have LR remove the link and have an explanation as to why.

I think this is a bit of an overreaction. Most of these games sites have links on to other material, including adult content. These are usually clearly marked as such. Once you're into an adult context, there's a vast amount of offensive material out there. If we decided to block out any mention of a site with an eventual link to offensive content, then it would be virtually impossible to post any link at all.

In light of CE's remarks, I took another look at the site and clicked through all of the immediate links. None of them link to anything more offensive than ladies in underwear. The adult links are marked as such, and have the usual "I am over 18 and do not find this material offensive" click-to-enter links.

Despite being alerted to look out for it, I did not see any material matching CE's description.


I don't know if CE is easily offended, joking or trolling. I do see a lot of usually rational people running around like chickens screaming "the sky is falling" without even bothering to do some basic checking.

From where I sit, this is not an issue.

*bawk* *bawk* :P

I didn't want to "research" it. Glad you did, Al.

I'm not sure what to think, now. :unsure:

You do make a good point about these sites linking to adult content, but I didn't consider "kiddie porn" to be simple adult content. That is if it was even there at all...

If there was genuine KP involved, I suspect they'd be shut down muy pronto. They look to be a medium-sized commercial operation. They would be unlikely to take that risk.

The description was:

Now, if that were the case, I'd consider it KP.

I also found while rereading the post:

So it is a link in a link in a link. Not sure I care about it so much now as before I was thinking it was a direct link from the game site posted.

Also, what does the InvisionFree Terms of Use say? We might have to delete it anyway just so this board doesn't get shut down.

You should be capable of reading them for yourself, but since you mention it...

These terms seem to be largely there to prevent Invision being liable for what we post. I don't think they're likely to come after us for this one. I can think of a fair few other posts which could be considered "false information", "abusive", or which advertised "harmful computer software", etc rather more directly.

You might want to note that our "En français" section is in direct violation of the board terms which say that the board must be in English.

I suspect the "I want a pic" thread may violate copyrights, unless we have all been getting permission to use the various pictures without indicating their source.

That's a somewhat grey area, since the "fair use" rule has not been seriously investigated with respect to the web. In many cases, the images were found via search engines such as Google or Clusty, and if they aren't being charged with copyright violations it seems unlikely that we would.

I have posted a warning in game thread so that anyone who reads the posts before starting the game will have some idea about the nature of the site. Clearly Starwars related content appeals to a wide age group. Any site that mixes games that are not of an adult theme with other adult content is asking for trouble.

We already have a policy against posting inappropriate material. However, in this case the game was not inappropriate but the other content on the site that is hosting the game is content of an adult nature. (the site considers its' self an adult humor site)

IHMO it is difficult to attempt to regulate every possible action. The poster has to shoulder the bulk of the responsibility.

We have a number of younger members. I would agree with Judith Gap that a warning label is not the best solution (I have posted one anyway in that thread). We have a nice forum, I would prefer not to start having a bunch of posts with "NSFW" tags next to them.

I would like to see Little Ronin remove the link. The real issue will come if he doesn't feel the same way. Our mediation guidelines are very poorly defined. Not to mention that we don't even have an arbitration process.

I just sent Little Ronin a PM and asked him to read this thread. I also asked him to provide us with his views on the matter.

I feel I have to agree with Al on this--because the "adult" link is clearly marked, and directs you to an "I agree to terms and am over 18" page, it passed the "one-click" test that I understand some webmasters use when determining whether something is "safe" for viewers. I like the rule because you have to set a limit--I'm sure you could link from the Disney website to offensive and illegal material if you followed certain links for long enough.....

I honestly don't believe Ronin did anything wrong, and no action should be taken against him.

Hey guys. Just got HB's message... by all means, delete the thread if it is causing problems. I was sent a link to the game from a friend, and never checked out any of the other links on the page. I'm sorry I didn't look into it further. Again, delete the thread. You have my permission, if you needed it in the first place.

No worries, LR. :)

Done, deleted at the request of the original poster.

Thanks LR for following up.

Btw Red - when I clicked on the link to the home page (to try and determine what kind of site this was) it took me straight to an adult joke page without any warning of any type.

well when i was looking around in the adult humour link(s). there was these one inch by maybe four inch tiles with the names of variuse sex fetishes, anima sex and cg sex. it was there i had seen the tile for the kp. i had not thought of drag-saving the link for proof. in hind sight i don't think it would be a good idea anyways. i wasn't really supprised about the sex being there it was the kp i was trying to warn about.