Title: Question to the Candidates
bweezy - January 19, 2004 01:46 PM (GMT)
I'll be firing off questions to candidates in all the races, but since this is the one with the most declared candidates at this time, I'll start here.
A burning election issue has arisen over the issue of the possibility of people being able to hold more than one cabinet position.
Would you enact legislation to address this issue? Why or why not?
Des Plaine - January 19, 2004 02:37 PM (GMT)
No, I wouldn't enact this issue/idea because it would unfairly give their voice more weight in the decision making. If they wanted to password the region and it passed only because he had two votes and there was 1 more vote than the non-password people. I would make sure that everyone got a chance to fill a position so each position was unique and no-one would be able to have twice the power than anyone else (making that person a super-power).
bob - January 19, 2004 03:24 PM (GMT)
I would adress this issue just because you should only have one cabinet position for per person, but I don't see the problem with a cabinet minister also being a deputy unless deputies have that much power....but if no one else is running for the positon you might as well run for two. :blink: but it all depends if a different person is running for each positon. Basically it should be one position per person but they could be a deputy as well and it depends if they win, but if they win in both positions they might as well act as minister in both until someone steps up and hold a mini election to see if people actually like the person in the current position or pick the new candiate in which the current minister would become a deputy and the new person a minister based on a vote if the minister wins again then the new person would have no position unless no one is the deputy who would also be in the vote if the deputy wins then the deputy becomes minister and the minister becomes deputy and the new person gets nothing, but only in the case of a person holding two or more minister positions, or we could just have it as one minister and deputy position per person and if a person runs for two offices and wins the one with no opponents for that position then in that postion they will become minister and the one with opponents they become deputy or we could have a vote on which one they should be minister in or deputy in.
Sybilla - January 19, 2004 06:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bob @ Jan 19 2004, 10:24 AM) |
| Basically it should be one position per person but they could be a deputy as well and it depends if they win, but if they win in both positions they might as well act as minister in both until someone steps up and hold a mini election to see if people actually like the person in the current position or pick the new candiate in which the current minister would become a deputy and the new person a minister based on a vote if the minister wins again then the new person would have no position unless no one is the deputy who would also be in the vote if the deputy wins then the deputy becomes minister and the minister becomes deputy and the new person gets nothing, but only in the case of a person holding two or more minister positions, or we could just have it as one minister and deputy position per person and if a person runs for two offices and wins the one with no opponents for that position then in that postion they will become minister and the one with opponents they become deputy or we could have a vote on which one they should be minister in or deputy in. |
That is one sentence... I am in AWE. :)
I would intend to enact legislation strictly limiting each player to one full Cabinet position, to avoid vote-caching and prevent the concentration of too much power into the hands of a small number of people. Indeed, this concentration of power was one of the primary reasons that the Canadian public eventually lost faith in their leaders... people in positions of power (appointed, but that's hardly the point) just simply had too MUCH of it.
Don't get me wrong... it speaks very highly of people that they want to be so involved in the sacred democratic process that they run for several positions... but for the benefit of the society, we need to ensure that limits are placed on the influence that individual member-states can yield.
As for the issue of Deputy Ministers, I believe that the decisions for who should serve as Deputies should be left up to the people who best know the needs of the Ministers - the Ministers themselves. In this way, each department can run in the best and most efficient way possible, and government waste, of both time AND resources, needs to be avoided at all costs, lest we slip into the same trap that the Canadian Federal Government did long ago, in the 1990's. :)
Sybillan Campaign Spokesperson.
Des Plaine - January 19, 2004 09:19 PM (GMT)
I would like to add another thought involving Deputy Ministers. I think if we were to allow them to run, people should be informed that they are running for more than 1 position, and that that is there 2, 3, 4, etc. position they're running for.
bweezy - January 19, 2004 09:27 PM (GMT)
To clarify - the Constitution states that a Minister can appoint a Deputy Minister - I suppose the Minister can appoint the Deputy Minister after first holding an election of some sort, but that's not essential.
Further, Ministers are also free to have other "staff". For instance, the Minister of Foreign Affairs will no doubt be appointing ambassadors and envoys in due course.
The total extent of a Ministers appointed staff will vary from Minister to Minister, so knowing precisely in advance how many spots will be open in a given Ministry may be difficult to ascertain in advance.
However, it certainly doesn't hurt for a Ministerial candidate to let the electorate know what kind of internal positions will be available should he or she be elected.
bob - January 19, 2004 11:35 PM (GMT)
one other option is if one person wins two or more elections and is a minister in two or more areas instead of having two votes they will have one, one vote per cabinet member, so holding two ministries just gives them double work not double power. :D
Des Plaine - January 20, 2004 11:25 PM (GMT)
That is a very good idea bob, that they only have double the work, not double the power.