A private jet is approaching the southern boarder of Durass.

On board is a pilot and co-pilot,
Chief Nagura of international affairs
And his secretary Ms. Hasner

They are requesting an escort to begin diplomatic talks.

C-Ton

Two fighters zoom past the jet from sunside. As they loop back, a second pair catches up from behind and below the jet and take up stations to either side. The first pair falls in astern.



C-Ton aircraft, this is Durassian control Maintain current heading and speed.

After receiving acknowledgement, one of the aft fighters pulls up overtop, flying very close, your aircraft is buffetting in the turbulence. it then drops back, inverts and performs the same maneuver under your aircraft. Then returns to position astern.

C-Ton aircraft, You have been assigned call-sign CTON-1, turning control over to fighter lead. Switch to frequency 251.6000.

CTON-1, this is Sabre Lead, follow all directions explicitely, any deviation will result in immediate shoot down.

Your aircraft will be lead down to low altitude, below radar horizon, and eventually to a roadway in the desert.

CTON-1, this is Sabre Lead, we will now turn you over to ground control.

Ground ccontrol to CTON-1, you are cleared fro immediate approach. Land onthe roadway, straight section is 5km long and stressed for runway use.

At this point you see runway lights along the roadway.

I'll do the greetings next week. HAve to run

This is Chief Nagura

I feel that I am wasting my time here in your nation.
I have a lot of work on my plate back home that my temp just cant deal with and would like to start this diplomatic talk immediately.
I also find it troubling that your military is advancing on C-Ton before having attempted a diplomatic method to resolving this dispute.

Chief Nagura of International Affairs.

Sorry for delay, still don't have laptop, been biking to work.

Quick update of arrival:
You were greeted by miltary personnel and as required all electronic equiment is checked.
Your aircraft is towed into a temporary hanger, if you're monitoring any transmissions from it, they vanish as the hanger is closed (RF sheilding.) Pilots are housed in nearby tents, under guard of course.
Nagura and aide are taken via closed vehicle to another location. You exit vehicle in a large hanger without seeing anything of outside. There is a coference table with your equipment on/by it.

Current:
Shortly after arriving, two female officers enter the hanger.

Chief Nagura, I am Commander Taylor.

The Council wishes to know what your government relation to the Foundation is. We find your aims and motivations to be identical thus, there is common ground.

Further, we are not convinced your governement is acting against these terrorists and wish to know explicitly what actions are being taken.

Currently, it is the oppinion of the Council that C-Ton is controlled by an apocolyptic ideology which only intends to disintegrate society and endanger the region. We feel we have no option but to enclose and if neccessary eliminate this unethical and illogical ideology for the protection of ourselves and the region.

Chief Nagura:

I see this is going to be difficult.

It is good to meet you Commander Tailor.
Have you been assigned to the diplomatic solution with C-Ton or will I have time before the council to answer and ask specific questions?

Because if you have, I would really like to get started and solve this diplomatic problem with you.

But I refuse to waste any more time, as this is an urgent matter. I dont know how long we have before General Kaile meets with the emperor on a solution to your aviational encroachment.

Perhaps it would buy us some time if you backed away from C-Ton territory a little bit.
I dont want to see this end up in war.

Commander Taylor?
(I asked you some questions)

Seems my reply got lost or I didn't send it before shutting down computer, I had to rush out yesterday so the later is more likely.

Chief Nagura, while there are limits to my powers, until those limits are reached, I have full authority of the Council in this matter.

If I may reiterate, at present, the Council considers C-Ton to be controlled by the same apocolyptic ideology as the Foundation terrorist group. You both, apparently, share the same motivations and goals. Further, your apprehension and prosecution of the terrorists appears ineffective at best and compliant at worst. There are many here who hold the opinion that the "terrorists" are operating in colusion with your government to further an agenda that would be of detriment to Durass and to the region as a whole. Furthermore, you requested to come here thus, it is our assumption that you bring a proposal to avoid conflict. The examination of such a proposal and information regarding our concerns is my primary duty. Additionally, I may answer questions or obtain answers to questions pertaining to these matters.

As to our surveillance, it will be maintained adequately to prevent any forces from leaving your nation with hostile intent towards Durass or our fleets in the Hudson's Bay. Also, to my knowledge, none of our naval aircraft have entered or been ordered to enter your airspace.

Commander Taylor,

Have you always lived in Durass? Have you travelled out of your country before?
Where have you gone?
Do you have a family?... children?
Why did you decide to join the military?

I have not come here with a solution but to find one together with your nation. Do you have demands? What are your objectives?

The Foundation is a terrorist group and we are currently trying to convict its leader but we lack help from the nations that they attacked. Currently there is no evidence in court from any other nations. C-Ton is doing what they can to convict the leader. We would like nothing more than this, even if it is partially to use him as a scape goat.

The government of C-Ton has no correlation with the Foundation except that the Foundation drew truths from C-Ton and twisted them to their own agenda. This parallels many historical organizations. Religions, as an example, all have a source that becomes twisted if the people chose to twist it. The catholic church twisted and manipulated the religion for many things including a holy war during the crusades.
The foundation operates under the same directive. We believe that there are many good groups begining to develope within C-Ton that will attempt to heal the world rather than force its views on it.
Truth always produces good and bad effects and as an evolving society we have to be prepared to deal with both.

I currently recieved word that any Durassian vessels that enter C-Ton territory are to be shot down. This is a similar order to the one in Israel to shoot any palestinians that enter certain areas. But as you know, in Israel, Israeli troops shoot warning shots first, and the palestinians usually get the message and turn back even though the troops have full authorization to shoot to kill.
Please warn your vessels to stay out of C-Ton space even though you have already ordered them not to enter, it would do no harm to warn them again.

If we work together, Commander Taylor, I believe that this war can be avoided.

Chief Nagura

will have to respond tomorrow

I'm not sure I understand the point of the personal questions however, I will indulge you for now.

I was born and raised in Durass though I have travelled much of the world both professionally and on my own.

I am Caernarfon Clan and have children with two of my current partners.

I'm not sure what you mean by "join the military." The martial arts and sciences are part of of our education and our lives. We chose our path from our abilities and interests, and the requirements of our nation. I chose this path when I was 14 and I've not yet tired of it.

As to the demands and objectives of Durass, ...

Our objective is freedom, peace and prosperity for Durass, our people and all the nations and peoples of Canada. We had to fight long and hard for our freedom and will not give it up easily. Likewise we feel it is our duty to aid and defend those who are oppressed and attacked whether physically or idealogically.

It is our demand that the threat represented by the Foundation be neutralized and those responsible brought to justice. If your governement is unable to do it, others may be forced to do it for you.

Commander Taylor,

We also believe that it is important to defend the oppressed which is why we have developed the anti-war coalition.
We still offer you a position on the antiwar coalition to defend the oppressed.
We believe it will be benificial for the entire world to have an antiwar coalition standing by to defend an attack.

We are doing all that we can to convict and put an end to the Foundation but we need the help of nations like you to ask questions and convict this criminal.

I wish to return to C-Ton now and resume my duties there.

I hope that our alliance will put an end to the conflict between our two countries.

Chief Nagura

Chief Nagura, I'm not certain what you've been hearing but, we DO NOT have an alliance. You have not even satisfied our concerns sufficiently to avoid hostilities.

You still have not demonstrated that your state ideaology is little more than a doomsday cult.

Nor have you shown any proof that this so-called terrorist group is not connected to your government.

You have not dealt with the discovery, by another nation, of an alleged terrorist training facility within your borders.

Our reports from the trial indicate that you apparently did next to no investigation nor interogation prior to the trial. Instead, you relied upon other nations to make your case for you and then are attempting to shift the blame to them for your own shortcomings. In fact, the alleged terrorist leader is, with complete cooperation of your prosecutor, running said trial for the purpose of spreading your ideaology without any real attempt to prosecute him at all.

In short, we strongly suggest C-Ton get its house in order and take responsibility for your own action or rather inaction.

Now, unless you have something concrete and useful to suggest we will immediately escort you out of our nation.

Commander Taylor,

I thought this was a diplomatic talk to avoid war. I was under the impression that we shared this as a common goal but I see now that I was wrong.
You are attempting to dominate our nation and only if we submit to your domination will war be avoided.
The emperor did not submit to Gematria so I am certain that he will not submit to you.

C-Ton is far from a cult. If you chose to send an investigation team into C-Ton you would realise the richness of culture and the will to bring about peace in this world found in every C-Tonian.
I am not here to prove to you that C-Ton is not a cult, especially since it is obvious that it is not.

We have done all the investigation that we could for the trial of the Foundation Leader, but this is a world court and it is not up to C-Ton to convict this criminal. The Foundation Leader has chosen his own defense and we have sent our best attourney to attempt to convict him. We assume that the rest of the world would send forth their best aswell.
This lack of help from the world will surely be what sets this terrorist leader free. He has not comitted any crimes against C-Ton and we would assume that the families of the deceased would put pressure on their governments to do all they can to convict this criminal.

The terrorist organization recieves no funding from the government. All of their actions come from their own free time. This organisation may be considered a cult because of their dedication to God but C-Ton is not creating peace for God although the emperor himself is very religious.
C-Ton is not a cult but a scientific nation that has followed the research of Isaac Asimov to determine the precise date of the end of the world.
The foundation is just an organization within C-Ton that believes they have found the solution to preventing this end.
C-Ton's solution is different than the solution of the Foundation thus they cannot be linked.

The Foundation training facility does not exist. Even Gemetria did not call it a training facility. Your nation has no evidence of such a place and the nation that did pulled out from attacking us.
Please do not burden this meeting with such rubbish.

If you have no concrete foundation on which to build peace with us then this visit has been a waste of time.

Good bye commander taylor.
Blessings on your house and your children's houses.

Chief Nagura

{16:23GMT}Sergeant, escort these two... diplomats back to their plane.
The same transport as before re-enters from the adjoining hanger and the Sgt asks you to remove your data from electrnic devices again. after having done so, two troopers load your equipment into large metal cases and carry it to a second vehicle. You enter your blacked out transport with two guards and return via another circuitous route to the airport. Upon arrival, your pilots are doing final checks of the aircraft which is just finishing being fueled. Your computer etc that was packed a the hanger is not there and your pilots inform you they have been informed the diplomatic clearance will expire in 3 hours and it is 2.5 hours to the border. When airborne, you will find all comms jammed untill you reach the border.

Edit - adding in the events that occure while Chief Nagura is out of communications. Total time includes 2:42 driving and 3:12 flying till Durassian escorts break off and shut down jamming pods. Note, during talks, Durrasian techs went over aircraft in electronically shielded hanger for all transmitters and thier frequencies so that all would be blocked upon leaving.

{17:25GMT}Confidential Report to Grand Council - Summary: C-Ton Envoy - Cmdr Taylor, Caernarfon Clan

The Envoy's task appears to have been to engage me in personal conversation, most likely for proslytization of thier ideaology. There was no attempt to negotiate nor provide information suitable to reducing the hazard assessment of the C-Ton government. He confirmed that apocolyptic beliefs are held by the government religion, including a predicted date of world destruction. Strangely, they consider Isaac Asimov, an avowed atheist, to be (one of?) the prophet of their religion.

When pressed regarding their activities with the "trial" of the alleged terrorist leader, the Envoy evaded the question, shifting blame to the victim nations. This is very curious considering the C-Ton intelligence service is repeatedly informing nations of impending attacks and methods by which terrorists are leaving C-Ton yet, they are unable to actually pursue the terrorists within thier own borders.
...


{19:53GMT}Communique from the Grand Council to all nations of Canada

Our recent discussions with the Envoy of C-Ton have proven fruitless, they have no real interest in stopping the terrorists nor avoiding any conflict. It appears they intend to foist their ideology on the entire region.

While we will await the final report of MrPopo before any final decision, we are sending additional forces to Hudson's Bay.

Further, we strongly suggest all nations ensure any ships or aircraft entering your national territory from C-Ton be searched and crew and passenger identity verified.

To increase regional security, The Council proposes an international sanctions on offensive weapons imports to C-Ton and a check of all C-Ton registered and internationally registered commercial vessels entering or leaving C-Ton for such weapons, terrorists and their contraband.

{20:05GMT}Durassian State Media Report

Over the last few days, a representative of C-Ton was in Durass. The supposed purpose of this envoy was to defuse the current situation however, it is now apparent that the only purpose was to waste time and proslytize thier apocolyptic cult ideaology.

The envoy, one Chief Nagura, was more interested in the personal life of our Counsel Representive than finding any solution nor even supply any concrete assurances that the government of C-Ton was not in league with the terrorist organization. In fact, due to the apparent ease with which the terrorists elude C-Ton authorities, even while C-Ton intelligence notifies target nations of impending attacks and movement methods of the terrorists, it is quite apparent that the terrorists must have assistance within the C-Ton Government.
...

It was announced today that the 8th Fleet and 27th Assault Group have been sent to join other forces in the Hudson's Bay and the 32nd Assault Group has been preparing for possible deployment.
...


{22:17}radio jamming ends, C-Ton aircraft is left by Durassian escorts to make it's own way home.

This is Chief Nagura of C-Ton International Affairs,

It was clear to me that avoiding war was not the goal of the meeting with Durass. They had me wait for days while I had many pressing issues back home. Finally I met with a commander who appeared to have no authority. I was under the impression that I would be working out a peace plan with him so I tried to get to know him as we would be spending a lot of time together.
Commander Taylor had only accusations and no solutions. He made no effort to even show that his goal was a peaceful resolution of the conflict.
All of C-Ton's prophecies are logical in nature and have mathematical proof. Isaac Asimov formulaically found the pattern in history of the rise and fall of civilisations and of great wars.
From his research we know the dates that the world will end if we do not actively avoid it. This is solidly proven and we would expect to get more resistance from religious people than non-religious because of the highly scientific nature of this research.
Even still, there is something known as risk adjustment.
If something has a probability of going wrong then you actively reduce the probability of it going wrong by applying attention to it equal to the probability that it will go wrong.

For example,
If something has a 20% chance of going wrong, then 20% of your time should be devoted to reducing this chance.

This end of the world affects all of us and even if it has a 40% chance (we have proven it to be very close to 98%) then we should devote 40% of our time to reduce this chance.

But rather than look at the facts, Durass has chosen to call us a religious cult.

They have made no differentiation between C-Ton and the Foundation which beleives that the only way the end of the world will be avoided is if everyone believes in God. The foundation also has a logical argument for why it is necissary for the world to believe in God for the end of the world to be avoided but they are imorally influencing the world through acts of terror.

It was clear to me that this so called meeting was just so that it would make Durass appear that they tried to avoid war which they clearly did not.
They knew the result of the meeting before it even occured.

I dont know what we are going to do, but if you'll excuse me, I have a lot of work to catch up on.

Chief Nagura

MMN news at 6 (channel 13D4) runs a brief story on the meeting:

"..new fantastic weight redu... *click* ... flew to Durass in a vain attempt to assuage fears about links to the radical C-Ton terrorist organization called the Foundation, and to recent militarization. Durass officials state that they were "frustrated" by repeated attempts by C-Ton to stonewall the talks, and their unwillingness to provide real answers to seriously accusations made by the Durass government. Political analysts say that the cryptic and unstable government of C-Ton is acting even more irrational than usual. With the recent assassination of their minister of defense in what appears to be a coup d’etat by the hawkish General Robert Lands, some say that war is only a matter of ti... *click* ...and the grease goes right into the pan, Jill! You..."

Durassian National Broadcasting News

Further to our report yesterday on the recent visit of the C-Tonian Envoy, it appears thier "scientific" community is on par with that other group of religious pseudo-scientists, the Creationists.

Using improper methods and selectively editing the data, they have created "proofs" that thier foregone apocolyptic vision of the future is unavoidable. They have dressed a mythology based on a work of fiction with the trappings of science in order to carry out some self righteous agenda. The author would surely be spinning in his grave if teh afterlife existed.

With the same vision, the splinter group "The Foundation" appears to have chosen a more active path and done away with the science in favour of a more religious version, complete with martydom and soul saving.

OOC

Muslim prophecy claims that the entire earth will be muslim, this is the basis for their Jihad theory.
Muslim means believer in one God. Thus they dont have to convert people to Islam just get the world to believe in God.
Hebrew prophecy claims that the earth will be ruled by God through Jerusalem.

These two strongest writings, the torah and the kuran, both claim the same outcome of the world.

The foundation takes the knowledge that Muslims will never stop fighting until the world believes in God thus a war will occur unless you can convince muslims that war is not the way to convert people.
The foundation puts it into this logical chart that can be found in the foundation trial post as one of the exibits.

This means that the only way war can be avoided with muslims is if the world believes in God.

The proof goes on to say that if war is not avoided the earth will be destroyed.
Every possible outcome of this war with the muslims will end in a belief in God.

You can chose to disagree with this logic but that is the logic that bases the foundation.

C-Ton believes in a political means to ending war.
They believe that the war can be avoided without resorting to god even though they are very religious.

C-Ton is thus not a cult and the Foundation is not a cult either just a renegade organization with its own logic.

The book of Ezekiel mentions that in the later days, Arabia (the muslim federations) will stand up and defend Israel and their holy rights and help them in the last wars against the nations of Gog and Magog and the northern nations (possibly a united European federation). And they would defend their rights to their own material wealths (possibly triggering a war with the United States when it does the same thing it did to the arabian nations to Israel, its latest ally)

Which is why it's hilarious to see the two extremes fighting against one another.

I mean theres nothing funny about war. But what a waste of life!