I would like to discuss the systematic rewriting of the constitution in which deputyselection is discussed and a time limit is imposed. I think that deputies should be allowed to be recruited at any time, with emphasis on the first week, but not inclusive to the first week.

Let the debate begin

The point to that law is that we have a deputy minister in place, in the event that that minister disappears. That way the deputy can take over.

The deputy ministers should be appointed ASAP, in case something like that happens. The 7 day rule is enforced in the sense that, if a minister has 3 applications for deputy within their first week in cabinet, they must be forced to choose one within that time.

If there were no time limit, than the minister could choose not to appoint a deputy minister until very late in the term.....but what happens if the minister disappears before appointing their deputy? We have no one to take over their position.

Which I believed has happened.

Yes it has happened. The guideline was created to prevent that from happening.

I'm afraid its true, Popo -- if a minister has no deputy, then said minister is without help! Its hard to do everything on your own; Deputies are here to help with that -- and, if, for some reason, the Minister leaves (no hard feelings, Maik! :P) then the deputy can take over. Its just something that must be in place, for the security of our country.

Lelana

I agree that there should be a choice to be made IF a deputy is volunteered. But why disallow people to apply for deputy for the empty positions AFTEr the 7 days? That would make it so that if there was no deputy in the first 7 days, there would be no deputy. What if a dep comes along after the 7 days. Is his application automatically nullified because of the 7 day rule?

Clearly, Mr. Popo doesn't understand. As a drafter of the legislation, let me try to clarify it for him.

Initially, some Ministers weren't appointing deputies at all after getting elected. Then the Minister would disappear, and there would be no replacement ready to take over. The role of a deputy is to help out, and to step in when teh Minister resigns or disappears, which happens a couple of times per term. As such, a deputy is essential to the continuation of democracy in this region..

To combat this probelm, a seven day rule was enshrined. The constitutional rule states that if the Responsible Minister does not appoint a Deputy in seven days, then the Prime Minister can step in and appoint one, so that a deputy is in place, ready to jump in should the Responsible Minister resign or disappear.

There is no prohibition on applying after seven days. Nowhere does it say that in the legislation. All it says is that after seven days, the person who appoints the deputy changes from the Responsible Minister to the Prime Minister.

Is that clear?

Just as Bweezy said, this is not at all true. What the rule means is that if there are applicants in that 7 day window, the Minister must appoint one. If no one applies within that 7 days, people may, of course, still apply for the positions, and be appointed. (Note how Quvai-Nischa was appointed today, well after the 7 days). The rule is only applicable in a situation where there are applicants for the position. If there aren't, we just encourage that one is appointed ASAP, in case a Minister disappears.

To me? Crystal.

I think the limit is fine, except in cases where one needs to be appointed. I think the problem may be a lack of clarity that the position entails so people are reluctant to volunteer for them. Otherwise i have no problem with the limits

now it all makes sense.

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