“ET” overblijfselen (Mysteries van de aarde)

Title: “ET” overblijfselen

Bert Jan - August 19, 2003 11:26 AM (GMT)

Een team van Chinese wetenschappers reisden in juli naar het verre westen van het land om een raadselachtige piramide te onderzoeken waarvan de plaatselijke legendes zeggen dat het een lanceertoren is achtergelaten door buitenaardsen. 9 wetenschappers onderzochten de herkomst van de 50 tot 60 meter hoge structuur in de westelijke provincie Qinghai en spraken van “ET” overblijfselen, aldus het nieuwsagentschap Xinhua.

Het bevindt zich op de berg Baigong, heeft drie holle ruimtes met driehoekige ingangen aan de voorzijde en zit vol rood getinte pijpleidingen die naar het binnenste van de berg leiden en naar het nabijgelegen zoutwatermeer, zo zegt Xinhua. Schroot van roestig ijzer, leidingen en ongewoon gevormde stenen liggen verspreid over het onherbergzame en voor het grootste gedeelte onbewoonde gebied. :unsure:

Een onderzoekswetenschapper van de dichtbij gelegen sterrenwacht van de Chinese Academie van Sociale Wetenschappen, zegt dat de theorie dat de piramide door buitenaardsen is gebouwd aannemelijk is en het de moeite waard is dit te onderzoeken. Het nieuwsagentschap Xinhua rapporteert geen details over de ouderdom van het complex of één of andere mogelijke verklaring er van.
Wat denk je ervan? :huh:

Bron:
Overgenomen en vertaald uit UFO Magazine uitgave augustus 2002 door Paul Harmans

Bert Jan - October 23, 2003 05:34 PM (GMT)

Weet iemand hier iets meer van? :huh: :ermm:

PJ - November 4, 2003 05:30 PM (GMT)

Heb je misschien ook foto's? Dan is het in ieder geval al makkelijker om zelf een theorie te verzinnen :yes:

Bert Jan - December 3, 2003 11:39 PM (GMT)

QUOTE (PJ @ Nov 4 2003, 19:30 PM)

Heb je misschien ook foto's? Dan is het in ieder geval al makkelijker om zelf een theorie te verzinnen :yes:

De zoektocht naar dit onderwerp heeft jammergenoeg niet meer informatie opgeleverd... :cry:

LEF - December 4, 2003 04:22 PM (GMT)

ja het kan best, maar dit al weer de zoveelste theorie je word er mee doodgegooit. op het andere forum waar ik ook veel zit is dit weleens besproken, maar op et andere forum zijn geen fotos te vinden of weet ik veel wat voorn bewijzen of conclusies.

sjoerd.

yowannuzz - December 7, 2003 12:08 PM (GMT)

Misschien een idee om eerst dat hele ding eens goed te onderzoeken en uit wat de onderzoeksresultaten zijn , je conclusies trekken.
Laten we nu niet gelijk ons heil zoeken in een sensationele en hippe theorie als aliens.....

:alien: :alien: :alien:

arqrex - March 17, 2004 11:28 AM (GMT)

juliie wilden foto´s zien geloof ik.

user posted image

Lex - March 17, 2004 10:17 PM (GMT)

hhmmm...ok...die eerste is een steen ofzo...de 2e een grot? :o

:yes: Das duidelijk: :alien:

hehe ^_^

arqrex - March 18, 2004 08:04 AM (GMT)

de eerste is een "ijzeren" pijp. :yes:
De tweede is een van de identieke driehoekopeningen. :rolleyes: Maar grot is ook een juiste term :lol:

Bert Jan - March 18, 2004 08:05 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (arqrex @ Mar 18 2004, 10:04 AM)

de eerste is een "ijzeren" pijp. :yes:

Die eerste foto lijkt net op een drol met een kwal erin... <_< :fluit: :D

arqrex - March 18, 2004 08:11 AM (GMT)

:o :o

die combinatie heb ik nooit gezien, maar als ik naar dat plaatje kijk dan kan ik me daar wel in vinden. ;)

Maar die ontdekkingstocht van 9 chinese wetenschappers is volgens mij allang begonnen/geweest. Was namelijk een bericht uit 2002, maar er zijn nog altijd geen bevindingen of uitkomsten vrijgegeven. :cry:

Bert Jan - March 18, 2004 08:42 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (arqrex @ Mar 18 2004, 10:11 AM)

Maar die ontdekkingstocht van 9 chinese wetenschappers is volgens mij allang begonnen/geweest. Was namelijk een bericht uit 2002, maar er zijn nog altijd geen bevindingen of uitkomsten vrijgegeven. :cry:

Misschien hebben ze tocht iets belangrijks gevonden.

Zal er nog eens naar zoeken... :unsure:

Bert Jan - March 18, 2004 08:52 AM (GMT)

QUOTE (http://www.newpara.com/Ancient_China_Spaceport.htm)

By Jo Lusby and Abby Wan

On the south bank of a saltwater lake sits a metallic pyramid said to be between 50 and 60 meters tall. In front of the structure lie three caves, each with triangular openings. The two smaller caves have collapsed, but the largest central cave is still passable. Inside, on the ground, lies a 40 cm length of pipe, spliced in half. Another red-brown pipe is sunk into the earth, only its lip visible above the ground.

Outside the cave, half pipes, scraps of metal, and strangely shaped stones are scattered along the southern bank of the lake. Some pipes run into the water; it is unknown what may lurk in the salty depths.

Should this site have been discovered in the outskirts of any of China's urban areas, the story would be about the perils of industrial pollution and its impact on the fragile environment. But this is at the foot of a mountain named Baigong Shan, in a remote comer of Qinghai province, 40 km from the nearest city. So could this--as frenzied speculation in China's press would have it--be the remains of an alien launch pad rumored to be between 30,000 and 20 million years old?

There's Life, Qin...

"The environment is harsh here," says Qin Jianwen, head of the local Delingha government publicity department. "There are no residents, let alone modem industry--just a few migrant herdsmen to the north of the mountains."

"Unless you see [the relics] with your own eyes you just wouldn't believe it," says Lanzhou Morning News journalist Ye Zhou, who was one of the first journalists on the scene. "It's hard to stick to scientific language when you talk about what's there. There are just all these iron pipes everywhere... it felt very creepy."

The site of what has been dubbed "The E.T. Relics" by the Chinese press was first reported in 1998 by a group of U.S. scientists on the trail of dinosaur fossils. The team alerted the local Delingha government to the presence of the structures, but the story went largely ignored until a report in the Henan Dahe Bao in June describing the site. From their base in neighboring Lanzhou, Ye and his colleagues decided to pick up the story and investigate for themselves, filing six reports detailing the expedition and their ongoing findings. "We just stuck to the facts," says Ye. "We tried to simply describe the site as we saw it."

Facts proved difficult to pin down, however. After a day of cross-country driving through thunderstorms, they arrived at Baigong Shan. "It was like hell," he recalls. "Nothing grows there." As to the question on everyone's lips--whether it's evidence of extra-terrestrial activities--Ye is pragmatic. "There's not likely to be any kind of unified answer that satisfies everyone in the near future," he says. "Personally, though, I believe it's just an unusual geological phenomenon. Why would an extra-terrestrial want to go to such an awful place? There's nothing there."

From local government official Qin's point of view, however, it's obvious why an extra-terrestrial would choose the desolate mountain slopes. "It has been suggested that the site was a launch tower left by extra-terrestrials," Qin told Xinhua News Agency on June 16. "They base their theory on the fact that it's very high altitude with very thin air, making it an ideal place to practice astrology."

According to Xinhua News Agency, results of preliminary rock and metal analysis show the pipes are 30 percent ferric oxide, with high content of silicon dioxide and calcium oxide; eight percent of the sample's makeup was categorized as "unidentifiable." Engineer Liu Shaolin from the Xitie Shan Smelting Plant, who carried out the first studies, says the levels of silicon dioxide and calcium oxide point to the pipes being on the mountainside for a long time--although he rejects the estimate of 30,000 years in favor of a more recent 5,000 years.

"The preliminary results have made the site even more mysterious," says Qin. With records of iron smelting dating back a mere 2,000 years, certainly, whatever conclusions are finally reached, the discovery will be deemed important. Then again, counters Lanzhou Journalist Ye, Qin would say that. "The Delingha government is already billing it as tourist attraction," he says. "There are road signs pointing the way to the E.T. relics, and they've got it in their investment and tourism guides."

Stranger than Fiction

Preliminary reports completed, researchers from the Beijing UFO Research Organization are now planning a more thorough expedition due to leave in late-July. Qinghai project director Wei Yuguang, recently returned from the site, describes what he found as a wasteland. "The area is totally deserted," he says. "There is no living creature within 500 miles, although beyond that invisible boundary there is rich wildlife. There is no transportation, and the road is very difficult to follow--a car carrying Xinhua journalists ended up stuck in a ditch."

While he wouldn't comment on whether what he saw were genuine extra-terrestrial relics, he applauds the fuss the discoveries have created. "It's high time UFOs were brought out of the closet," he says. "I'm glad so many people want to go to Qinghai and take a look at the site."

The July expedition, he says, will be comprised of a team of ten experts, ten journalists, and a CCTV film crew. Competition to join is hot, however, says Wei, "and so far there are 40 experts who have signed on. The oldest volunteer is in his 80's, but since the altitude is more than 2,000 meters, I have set the age limit at 60 years."

The press frenzy, says Wei, is largely due to his own efforts to stir up interest. "When I initially came to the site I wrote lots of articles," he says. "But none of the newspapers were interested. So I posted the news online, and, with the help of the Delingha government, media interest began to grow. Now, I've had reporters coming to me one after another, wanting to visit the site."

Joseph Wang, acting chairman of the Hong Kong UFO Association, is guarded in his view of what the Qinghai relics could be. "Without concrete on-site research it's hard to comment on what's going on," says Wang. "I could well believe that the pipes are an extra-terrestrial engineering project, though."

On the whole, UFO research in China is relatively scientific, Wang continues. "Most discussion takes place within the confines of space flight and military plans. People only make so much fuss about UFOs because they believe they seldom see them. But to make an analogy, cats could very well be extra-terrestrial. It's just that because we see cats all the time, we accept them as earth creatures. But how do we know?"

Whatever the findings of the expedition may be, the flurry of media reports and relative willingness of officials to discuss the possibility of unexplainable phenomenon is surprising to some, especially when compared with recorded sightings elsewhere in the world. "There is a definite liberty in China to talk about paranormal things," says German UFOlogist Hartwig Hausdorf, author of The Chinese Roswell, exploring paranormal interpretations of the White Pyramids discovered outside the city of Xi'an. "In Chinese mythology, there are legends of emperors descending from the people of the stars, (riding) on metal dragons."

In the course of his own research on the white pyramids, Hausdorf says there was no problem gathering evidence to support his theories of ancient paranormal activity. "The Chinese authorities have made great leaps since the 1970's," he says. "In the United States, it's like a military dictatorship, with UFO areas like Area 51 (a secret base rumored to house aliens and UFOs for genetic testing and more) restricted."

Although the existence of the pyramids was first reported by U.S. fighter pilots flying over China in the Second World War, it was only when Hausdorf began research in 1994 that people accepted their existence. "I obtained permission to check out the area with a video camera," says Hausdorf, "and I literally stepped on the pyramids. The authorities were very free about the whole experience. You'd have way more trouble stepping into these areas in the U.S."

That liberty to discuss paranormal activity in China is due to be stretched even further, with the first Chinese UFO conference due to be held in Dalian this August [2002]. And whatever the scientists uncover on their next expedition, it is likely that the Qinghai extraterrestrial relics will be high on the agenda.

What does it all matter, though, asks Wang in Hong Kong. "So what if we discover that there is alien life? Life will still go on."

Dit is wat ik er nog meer over gevonden heb. En waarschijnlijk word er een expeditie in juli 2004 gehouden... :cry:

arqrex - March 18, 2004 09:35 AM (GMT)

Dit is idd wat ik ook al gelezen had, maar zie geen echte uitkomsten (zoals ik die graag zou zien dan he). Maar vond ook dit stukje wel interessant:

QUOTE

metal analysis show the pipes are 30 percent ferric oxide, with high content of silicon dioxide and calcium oxide; eight percent of the sample's makeup was categorized as "unidentifiable."

Dus we gaan maar wachten totdat de expeditie van 2004 is geweest.
Ben wel verheugd dat China, dit in tegenstelling tot Amerika, eens niet in een doofpot stopt, maar vrijelijk erover bericht.
:woot:

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