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Cybergun Thompson (Mil) M1921 *uploaded*, by Fauxprophet

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Posted: Mar 23 2004, 02:02 PM

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I figured it would be a good idea to write a review of this (since i've only seen one on the net and it was 1.5 paragraphs long).

Preface:
This is the Thompson Spring rifle, distributed by Cybergun. I honestly couldn't tell you what company originally designed this, but oddly enough there is some Japanese on the inside of the front "wood" grip. Its the Military version (model 1921) with the stick mag (assumption based on the sights and the Charging bolt being on the top......if anyone knows better, feel free to correct me). [I'm fairly sure the gun is made by a Korean company called KSG, along with the HBII - Spets]

Packaging:
The pictures on the box are kind of boring, so I didn't pay that much attention to it. The box is the same style as that of the AR-15 and the AK but has the cheap paper inserts like the AK (unlike the AR-15 which had a molded plastic bin thingy). It comes with a cleaning rod, the magazine separate from the gun, and a sling. Oddly enough mine didn't come with any BB's.

Appearance:
There are a lot of copyrights on this gun, but I wouldn't be able to tell you if they are accurately reproduced from the real-steel version, partly because they made so many variations and because I've never had the honor of being able to see one in person. Also, the only airsoft trademark is the "KSG" above the trigger guard on the right side of the gun (same KSG as on the Hardball, AK, and AR-15). The gun is cast in the black dull plastic we all have come to expect of springers, and the same faux wood as on the AK, but slightly darker. And just like the AK, all the screws are on the right side of gun. Normally it wouldn't bother me so much since the screws are black, and don't go into the surface that much, but the screw holes are extremely noticeable for the faux wood since they are deep in the surface, and the black on brown makes it a big contrast. Seam lines are kind of a problem again, but its something that can be fixed with some light sanding. The cocking bolt has a nice touch to it; a glossy finish was put on to mimic metal. And the orange bit of plastic can be removed with a little twisting (lightly glued on).

Function/Accuracy:
The mag unfortunately uses the reservoir system, similar to the AK. Unlike the AK, I can't get any bb into the primary stacking using it. But it's a good place to put some weight in, if you wish to make the gun a little heavier (the mag is pretty much just plastic and air). The primary spring can hold up to 24 bb's. Kind of a let down after the Ar's 68, but similar to the AK's 30. The cocking bolt is on top of the gun, and given the nature of the bolt having a space in the middle (allowing people to aim), there are some concerns with breakage. The piece isn't as thick as the AK's bolt, but thicker and the Ar's t handle. But given the nature of the design (along the lines of an L shape), breakage is inevitable with enough abuse.
The FPS on the box is listed as 230. At 5 feet it can puncture a cardboard box, and at 15 feet it consistently imbeds in the box. At 15 feet with no wind, indoors, it has a 2-2.5 inch grouping from a full mag of 24. The sights are somewhat difficult to use in close range, the back notch is very very very small (widening, and deepening it may help). A nice feature is the sights do flip up for distance shooting, but since it's a springer, it's a useless feature. Nice, but useless. (That feature is on there because it�s a replica of the original M1 Thompson, not the M1A1 that had the long distance sites removed-Shriak)

The mag insertion into the gun is a little rough, since you guide it through a path on the trigger guard. This is designed to keep the mag in place, and is similar to the real steel version.

The stock is removable, and given that most of the weight is located there, it makes the Thompson a lighter and much compact weapon (kind of like a big Tek9). The weight is around 2/3 to as much as half of the AR-15 with mag.

The safety is a dial, and the selector switch is entirely decorative and doesn't move, so don't bother trying. Plus the mag release has been recreated in all of its awkward glory.

Bits and ends:
The sling they included in the box is as bad as the one they included with the AK, and is grotesquely small for something of the Thompson's size. The handle is rather awkward, due to its thickness, and the lack of a groove for the thumb, and the finger groove solely for the pinky. But this is how it was on the real steel, and I suppose I just have short fingers.

Upgrade potentials:
As for upgrades of the gun: I wouldn't recommend spacers, given the nature of the charging bolt...if you can overcome that problem then spacers may help. There isn't much room around the gun for adding weights aside from the mag, given the skeletal nature of the M1A1. I suppose the only thing you could really add on without too much trouble would a drum mag, since they do sell them.

Conclusion:
Its not a bad spring rifle, somewhere around that of the AK, just with less barrel wobble. I could see people having sore hands after use since the charging bolt is kind of sharp, but gloves or even some duct tape will solve that. Get this if you really want a Thompson or just want an alternative to the other springers out there. Since you can remove the stock with a push of a button, it does make it much more CQB-able. It performs just like the AK in terms of speed and accuracy, and just like the AK, is outperformed by the AR-15. Just don't pay more than 100 bucks for it. I've seen this and the "Typewriter" variant being advertised for 130. Many places right now (written around March-2004) are having sales on the Typewriter variant for 70-80 bucks, so if you want the Prohibition Gangster look, you're in luck.

Pros:
It's a Thompson.
Solid Construction
Many trademarks

Cons:
Light without stock
Not many options for it
Poor sights
Few metal parts.

Metal Parts:
Sling rings, trigger, safety, screws, and spring.

~fauxprophet

This post has been edited by Shriak on Jun 13 2004, 09:36 PM

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Drifter	Posted: Mar 28 2004, 08:26 PM
Private Group: LO Airsofter Posts: 46 Member No.: 10 Joined: 28-July 03	Huh, it doesn't sound like the gun is worth the money, even though it is a Thompson. -------------------- S&W .357 Magnum "Monster Revolver" It's not how fast you can draw, it's how good you look while doing it. -Drifter

Spetsnazgg	Posted: Mar 29 2004, 04:26 PM
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 893 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-July 03	Yea, it doesn't sound like it's too good but some people like the look a lot. The performance is less than that of an MP5 and it costs more , the MP5 is still the reigning champ in the sub $70 category. Although the HFC MP5 and the HBII are considered very close compeitors. -------------------- -Cybergun Mesh Mask -UHC MP5SD3 w/ Sling, Daisy Red Dot Sight, and white fire selector. ~Spetsnazgg

Shriak	Posted: Jun 13 2004, 09:36 PM
Editor Group: Ultra Moderators Posts: 576 Member No.: 3 Joined: 18-July 03	This review has been edited, and it is ready for posting. -------------------- -The scream of the katyushas deafen your ears, the snows of winter blind your sight, and the crack of russian rifles rob you of life. Surrender German, how could you possibly defeat us? -n00bs, you can't live with them, but you can shoot them. -Shriak

Spetsnazgg	Posted: Jun 14 2004, 05:33 PM
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 893 Member No.: 1 Joined: 17-July 03	Edited and uploaded on to website. Go check it out at http://loairsoft.da.ru/ -------------------- -Cybergun Mesh Mask -UHC MP5SD3 w/ Sling, Daisy Red Dot Sight, and white fire selector. ~Spetsnazgg

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