I'm a huge fan of Final fantasy 7~ and even tho advant children was good~ it was a lil disappointing.
I kinda wanted to see the love triangle more between cloud, aeris and Tifa...and more of what happen after they saved the world the first time instead of another world destroying plot or w/e.
:cloud: :tifa:

Well what do u guys think the story line should've been?

In all honesty, i loved the storyline for AC, i really didnt think that there was any bad moments in the film..

The first time that i watched it..I was a little concerned about it but the more i watched it, the more i started to like it..

well i have to say its kinda hard when she is dead ;)... hehe... but i think that she pops up several times and the "love" triangle between the 3 of them shows several times in clouds mind... and i dont see it as another must safe the world again plot.. since it also tells something about the others which is infused with the cells of jenova, and also makes it clear.. that Sephiroth isnt beaten yet... far from it actually.. since thats what you kinda get a image of sicne come on you killed that bastard several years ago on your playstation :P... but he is still here lurking.

Therefore i dont think it was a bad plot and i liked the story very much.. but i could really have wished it was longer.. so you could get to see more whats happening between characters yes.. since if you are a non FFVII gamer.. then you must be confused from time to time with the quick location switches :P

The characters who make an appearence in it like cid, red and vincent.. well pretty much every single member of ure party made it damn good, i really didnt expect that at all.

Also Kadaj is a class character and him being in the movie alone just made it good as well as the battle at the end with seph and cloud.

I really loved the movie, there is nothing that could make me say that it sucked.

I was surprised at how well they did Barret in the movie. I was expecting to see Mr. T.

I loved the storyline.
The characters were great.
I just wish Sephrioth had more time in the movie than a few minutes XD

And they brought out Vincent into the picture more
(more like throughout the movie lol)
which, I liked.

I just loved the part when u saw red run in with barret in one scene and also how cait is sitting on top of red.. just so damn unexpected but damn good..

Final Fantasy VII was my very first FF game, and will always be my favourite.
As for the movie, well, I thought it was great!
I absolutely loved Uematsu's new versions of the old songs, aswell as the new ones.
The only thing that struck me as 'disappointing' would be the fact that there were A LOT of fighting, and somewhat less storyline.
But apart from that, it's a great film.

I loved the movie, but my only problem was that the CG in the movie was inconsistant. There were times when I could not tell it was CG, and that is awesome. However, there were other times, such as when Vincent first appears, that it was just way too easy to tell it was CG and it didnt fit in really well. Other than that it was awesome. Kadaj is almost as cool as Sephiroth.

BTW, this is the first time I ever say a full body shot of vincent. WTF is up with the pointy shoes?

WHAT!!!
Hes always had pointy shoes, they match his arm.

Anyway I loved the movie and the CG in now way bothered me but in fact blew me away. I didnt want to leave my computer screen once it started playing and I would watch it so many more times. I love how they did the characters and the costumes looked great in CG. Kadaj I found a little bit annoying as he wasnt quite as evil as Sephiroth but he wasnt as smart either. He didnt think stuff through and sephiroth wouldnt of ever made mistakes like kadaj did.

I thought they did really well with AC's storyline. I have to admit I was kinda worried that they would butcher it! I think that they could have gone alot deeper into the storyline but with that callibur of 3D animation (it's possibly the best I've seen in an animated film of that length) I can totally see why they didn't (it must have taken them FOREVER to model, texture, render etc...).

I loved the fact they left the love triangle the way it was. Although it would have been cool if Cloud and Tifa got together, I think that it woulda ruined the dynamic of the film. I also love the fact that you finally get to see Aeris and Zax together, they make a cute couple in my opinion!

So yeah all in all it was a job well done... Although I can't help but wonder if Loz, and Yazoo's roles in the film were slightly pointless? I was under the impression that all three were needed for Sephi's awakening... Although another watch maybe in order incase that was just my stoopid brainbox playing tricks on me Oo;;

omg! your lucky! we still havn't got it over here in Europe :(

I found the stroyline good... It had a nice twist at the end... :)

No one has a true copy yet unless you are in Japan. Everyone here downloaded it via bit torrent or by some other means.

.... the story was.... ok.....

I still dont think it's all that great.... infact it was all a bit pointless... it should have either been really relevant to the game... or not. but the way it is, its just sorta a wishy-washy... same characters.. little bit of reunion style-y stuff... but then not really about that at all..... little bit about the disease thing.... but then not really about that either.....

It should have been waaaaay more substantial.... not a little bit of this, a little it of that... a bit of FFVII reference.... a little bit of new stuff...... it could have been a revolutionary film.. combining the incredible graphics with a kick ass story..... easily do-able by building and expanding on the FFVII story which is such a good story.... and opening up FF for people who havent played the games, whilst still answering alot of those unanswered questions for the people who already know and love the series....

.... but, for me.. it just really didnt do that.

still..... the graphics are so so so incredible and shiny and lovely that I am able to ignore the fact that i dont think they did a very good job with the story line... ITS SO GODAMN PRETTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Id have to agree with leona, great movie very nicly done, hats off inventive and gives a good bit of detail about the past etc etc. but wouldnt it have been better to make the movie about the actual game??

i mean come on, the game had everything, action, suspense, thrill, romance, comedy, tragedy, a slight bit of horror (the mansion creeps me out) it would have been amazing (not saying its not superb, dont stone me). i think advent children, wouldve been a great sequel to a proper FF7 movie. it was also a little short.

it would have been alot better to use the pre written storyline, which was tried and tested with fans, i mean who can say that FF7 is not the best and well known FF game (if u raise your hand and say me, i will smack you)?? then why not make the movie of it??

advent children can only appeal to people who've played the game, know about sephiroth, clouds past, and the characters, unlike spirits within, which anyone could watch, knowing nothing about the game. if you clear your mind of FF7 youd be saying "whos the black guy with the gun 4 an arm, thats weird?" or "who is the guy in the wheel chair, and why he in it??" only if u played the game, can u appriciate the movie.

on the flip side, you could think that square is rewarding its loyal fans with a what happened later storyline, buts thats just too nice to think about, and wouldnt support the great discussion we are having.

I think that the movie captured a lot to do with the game, like the area's that you see in the movie, background scenes etc that you recognize from the game.

I thought that when the movie came out, it was going to be very very similar to the game and you would get to see places like rocket town and the northen smowfields etc but even though you didnt see all that, there is still nothing to complain about i think.

The fact that you got to see all the chracters was a great surprise including aeris at some points as well.

...Okay, I've got a lot to say.

Heh, frankly, I've always hated Cait Sith so much. I mean, honestly. Is Reeve seriously still sitting around controlling that thing?

Amen, man. A-freaking-men.

I know where you're coming from in that, and to an extent, I agree with you. There did seem to be a lot of fighting, which may have made other things suffer.

It's not really inconsistant. I see what you're thinking, but you also have to realize that they're realistically animating characters and actions that have very unrealistic abilities and features. I'm sure they may have even watched that portion with doubt, but in the end, there's no possible way to do it any better than they did. With that observance, you can see that inconsistance isn't really appropriate when referring to that scene.

This is one thing that really gets on my nerves about people. When did anyone get the idea that Sephiroth was evil? In truth, Sephiroth was a very good man, if a little arrogant. The only thing that ever changed about him was perhaps a little mental trauma. He was merely deluded in what he thought was truth. After much studying and much misinterpretation, he concluded that he existed for one mere purpose. Philosophically, and logically, if you knew you were 'destined' to do something, wouldn't you make an effort to fulfill that destiny? Sephiroth thought that he had to do the things he did, as though he existed only to fulfill his "mother's" wishes. He didn't want to; he felt he had to. And in that feeling, the original Sephiroth buried himself deep within this obligation to do what "must be done."

Truly, far too many people misinterpret so very much about the game. It's sadly disappointing. The game's storyline is actually very different than most people would take out of it, considering the lack of critical thought while playing. I'd say about 95% of the population that proclaim to be "FFVII Masters" or "FFVII Fans" have only scratched the surface of what the game really is. (Also, I thought Kadaj was annoying too. >.<)

EDIT: Oh, by the way, I observed all this and much more about the depth and structure of the storyline of FFVII by playing through the game one time, not a million like most people do.

In my opinion, Loz and Yazoo were the stars of the show. Though, Loz was definitely cooler. I thought he was cooler than Kadaj was.

Yeah, no. Ever heard the phrase, "import"?

Er... Leona, the initial structure of FFVII is more like the structure of Advent Children than you apparently realize. In the end of FFVII, didn't you notice all the loose ends? All the unanswered questions? All the mysteries that seemed to disappear? Believe it or not, these weren't victims of plot device. No, it's something much more complicated (though it sounds simple, trust me, it's not).

You see, they left all those things linger at the end of FFVII intentionally--that is, on purpose; for a reason. It's more psychological than anything else, though I think I can explain it. Basically (and I mean "basically") they left so many things left unsaid to leave you consiously wondering about those things. It makes the story stick in your head longer, and actually adds a lot of depth to the story as a finale.

Advent Children was the same way; they explained some things, indirectly, that answered a question or two, but they otherwise left many of the questions out there. Then again, the series isn't over yet. Dirge of Cerberus will surely have answers, so keep a lookout for it.

Eh, heh... No, not really. What worse move is there to make a movie with such standards from a game with such standards?

First of all, everyone would've already known the storyline. Well, there goes all the drama, such as the deaths of Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie, to the confrontation with Dyne, and the worst of all, Aeris. All twists would be expected. In other words, though it'd be cool to see the characters and such, the storyline would leave more to be desired. Ever heard the phrase, "beating a dead horse"? Yeah, it's that deal.

*Raises hand* Me.

oh come ff7 is the most well known out of the entire series!! argh

as it says on the forum page :cid:
. and my main argument was stated as --for people who have not played ff7, they wouldnt know whats going on-- i watched it with a mate, and he was like, whos this, whys that, hows this.

are you telling me that if the movie was based directly on the ff7 game, you wouldnt of watched it??? of course you would have, but then so would alot more people, as it explains about the past and the present, aswell as how the relationships were forged. as i said in the previous post

and im actually wondering whether stephanie meant the look of the charater kadaj compared to sephiroth rather than personality trait.

umm me *raises hand* just because its the forum's favourite and the general favourite of the FF fanbase Doesnt mean it is the best... i mean i think FF8 and FF10 were superior in many ways


as for FF7 AC's storyline...

i thought it was good and well made... i was happy they made a sequel to the game and thought it was better made that way... as a game i think it wouldve been way too short and flopped like X-2 did... the storyline wsnt the best ive seen in gaming/filming history... but i like the way they gave that little bit more to the fan's that loved FF7. also i would prefer the AC storyline coz how many people would want to watch something theyve completed many times? :cloud:

Black Night, Advent Children was aimed at the fans of FFVII.

Also, frankly, though FFVII had a great storyline, that was pretty much all it had going for it. As a game, it wasn't really very impressive. FFVII is just very, very overrated. In my opinion, FFIX is the best FF. FAR better than FFVII.

Gyak!!! whats this?? whats this i say!!! im sure if they redid FF7 to a standard which we all now play at, it would still mince every FF out there. i mean, enemies which leveled up as u did, genius, mutiple endings even better, controlling the summons (predictable but awesome) if you combined those in every FF game, FF7 would still beat the rest of the games.....but youd have to sort out the polygon images.

That would probably shame the FF series as much as FFX-2 did. The stupidest thing Square could do is to remake the game and assume it'd be popular with those thoughtless and pointless additions. It sounds like something some low-budget crappy producing company would do. I'll even elaborate.

Enemies that leveled up as you progressed through the game. For one, it's already been done in games before. And majority of the fans didn't like it. Why? Well, I'd agree that it's an interesting idea for a little innovation. However, they'd literally have to explain the reason for which the mosters were becoming stronger (I could reference Kingdom Hearts). In FFVII, there would be no room within the plot to add some random excuse to add the feature. They could do it, but chances suggest that it would be a conspicuously weak excuse, which is not admirable.

Multiple Endings. Here's one that I'm sure even most people would agree with me on. Multiple endings? That's just wishing for Square to butcher the storyline. The game already happened, the story already took place, and frankly, it would be as though they were changing history. Plus, then the happenings of Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus would also be conflicted. Bad. Idea.

Controlling the summons. Yes, very predictable indeed. And also a bad idea. This is simply because the summons using one big move when cast is just plain part of the essence of FFVII. I mean, picture Kights of the Round. It'd be ridiculous--worse than the Magus Sisters. But when it comes down to it, that's just a really big change to the game's play. It could be done, but it would take away the feel of playing FFVII.

A game remake of FFVII could be possible, but it would be much more complicated to make than just upgrading the graphics. So much is involved in an effective remake of a game--especially a game that is held so high in so many hardcore fans' hearts.

I'm just wondering, how many Final Fantasy titles have you played, and which ones?

wtf..... Just because Final Fantasy VII has the biggest fan base it doesnt mean its the best! far from it! im not saying its a bad game at all but really most people say its the best because its the first one they played in 3D.

FFIX as Ayesuku said has a better story better character development also! i mean come on... a remake to FFVII tho millions of people would buy it... would ruin the whole game for me the polygonal characters were part of what made VII and i dont think it should be changed.

sorry maybe i should of clarified, i dont mean remake the game and add these things in, i mean if when it was first released it had these additions, then yeah it would have been the best game by far, in terms of the best ff game, everyone has something different. but in terms of storyline and gameplay, it hasnt been beaten, personal opinion, and your entitled to your own, but every poll i have seen says its the best by far. anyway, i think this is going off the point of movies!

You can't beat the orginal so i say it was brought out without the aditions for a reason(NOT in the creative scence) :vincent:

well i dunno which member it was that said they didn't think kadaj was up to par with sephiroth but the creators meant it to be that way. Come on now think about the concept kadaj is a body of thoughts and he can't get all of jenova's splintered thoughts into one of his own. I thought they did his character very well and it was a character foil<--- (vocab term) that really helped bring out sephiroth's evil. Kadaj doesn't even understand what he is releasing by turning into sephiroth he says so to reno. He is a tool that jenova uses to ressurect sephiroth nothing more.

Aslo I'm gonna get bitched out for this but i thought ff8 was the best. I'm 17 so the thought of being a Seed really appeals to me. I liked Seifer a lot more than sephiroth because he actually related to what people feel in what we like to call real life. Sephiroth is more relatable to a great white shark than any real person...must destroy world must bring back jenova I have no other purpose kill kill kill kill BORING.
PS: where did u guys take that advent children quiz?

I love this movie, The story and charecters are awesome. When i first watched it i was amazed by the graphics of the movie ( dah!)

I'm still waiting for the American version to be released. I'm testing myself to see if I can go without downloading the Japanese version and watching it. I am though growing more and more anxious and anticipated as the months go by...errr.

I downloaded it from lime-wire, and yeah it's japanese but some how its weird when i watch anime stuff in english, i don't know why.