im sorry 2 say
but im not gna post nemore
it seems as if..these past few dayz have shown me a few things

wen i had sed posted those questions 2 u...
u lot asked 4 PROOF
i gave it....

but now L walks back in saying she was traumatised wen she was younga and no1 questions her..even though everything she has sed has bin a lie

i was called all sorts of names....had abusive comments thrown @ me just because i was d only 1 2 admit d truth

and d worst ting is no1 even apologies...

all im gna say is dis

do u think L wud have admitted d truth if i hadnt started asked all those questions

so im not gna stay...
gdbye

okay, i was one of hte ppl that didnt accuse u of lying. i was neutral the whole time.

like i told u on aim. i think u were determined to prove as all wrong. you did everything in ur power to prove u were right and we were wrong.


thats all i have to say on that.


i dont like choosing sides. but, if u cant learn to forgive when ppl make mistakes, ur going to be lonely...cuz everyone makes mistakes in their life that will make you mad.

this is getting out of hand...I have been a member here for so long that this is the first time things have gotten to the extreme..this board is falling apart..and it didn't use to be like that..Shaz don't leave okk..you just have to forgive okk

Yes but before you were neutral, everyone accused us of things we really didn't want to do. Like bashing L, our intention was not to bash L, it was to just say, you know, maybe she's lying, maybe that's not true.

And I understand where you guys are coming from, cause L is your friend, you'd never expected anything like this, but, even when we were right, some of you guys didn't even say sorry, or apologized to us. (Only 2 have)

And then that made us feel horrible....

And as someone wise once told me ( ;) :D ) She's only sorry because she got caught.

OK, I'm gonna apologize now. Sorry Karen and Shaz for not believing you. :(
Yeah, L was kinda my friend, and she was a good liar so I believed her.
Please don't leave, Shaz. I'd feel terrible. This whole thing with L never should have happened, she shouldn't have lied about the hospital and everything.

Probably...or she would never have kept lying for months and months....

ok, ppl, I did apologize to both of you. so again, sorry. But I suck at holding grudges. so don't hate me just cuz I am not a member of the L sucks club.

i didnt take sides or not believe u guys in the first place, but i'll apolgize anyway. but, u cant hold grudges...its just not healthy.


this is soo oout of hand :(

yeah...

as i have mentioned a couple of times before, i had a break from this site. i come back finding out that L said lies and now you and Karen are being pretty much, verbally abused. i would apoligize but i had no part of this. But. i would like to say soomething. dont just stop posting on this site becuase some *troubled people* are being INCREDIABLY RUDE TO YOU and are not seeing the TURTH.

i also forgot to add that L would of proberly not have stopped saying these *troubled* lies to everyone if no one had confronted her. You and Karen did the right thing. Don't stop doing that b-cuz some people dont want to face the FACTS.

i dont think ppl are trying to be rude. ppl are just stating their opinions. things they have noticed too. if ur acusing me of bashing them in what i said. it wasnt intented to be bashing. i was just doing what they did when they were pointing out things that they were saying about L. And, if you ban me for that, then fine. but, you know that would be wrong, cuz if you say what u didnt wasnt bashing, then what i said wasnt bashing either. so its not agaisnt the rules, since u guys said what u said wasnt agasint it either.

you know what, guys? this whole drama is annoying me. "L lied", "M, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you", "don't come crying to me when she hurts you again". First off, LET'S JUST DROP THIS STUPID TOPIC!?! L lied, everyone makes mistakes. and I really AM sorry I didn't believe you, but as Karen said, she is my FRIEND. Ppl don't like it when you say bad stuff about friends. Ok? And you know what? I am starting to consider not coming here anymore because THIS WHOLE ARGUEMENT IS DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!

That would be great! :P

Me too...we should just get over it....

yeah, u guys really dont seem to see that. when i see what L did....i think she has some serious issues. nobody does something like that because they are bored. i think something probably really did happen to her. yeah, okay, so I dont have proof. but, i know from my own experience that trauma can screw u up and make you do and say really stupid stuff. so, ya, i do believe L when she says something did happen to her when she was young. I can relate to that.

this is getting way out of hand though. i cant stand it.

I agree w/ you...

agree ^_^

Actually, our intention was not to bash her, but things did get out of hand, we did bash her. But that wasn't our intention at all. :wacko:
Anyway, whether it was or wasn't, one thing that REALLY ticked me off was that, now she's saying that something did happen at crhsitmas, I'm not going to believe it, I consider her a friend, but I'm just not going to trust her. It's simple. ;)

you know what..I definatly agree with you!!!!!!! lets just drop this whole thing and pretend it never happened..you guys are making toooo much out of it...and people are getting angry at each other too much lately!!!!

Karen, Shaz we are very,very,very deeply sorry. This is a very sincere apology..coming from the bottom of my heart...SO I WOULD LOVE IT IF NOBODY LEAVES,PLEASE!!!!!!!!

and thats ur decision, which is fine. its tough to trust someone again after they have lied to u (yes even harder when its a big lie). and i know u guys didnt intend to bash her, but yeah, thats what it turned into. i think we all pretty much owe each ohter apologies. L lied, she has to apologize to everyone. some of us didnt beileve you, we need to apoglize too (which some of us have done)...BUT, i think u guys need to apologize to everyone (yes including L) too...u guys broke your own rules and u got away with it, cuz ur admin. that isnt fair. and thats my opinion

hmmm, shaz is not online, I'm not leaving, but I just think Shaz is upset cause, well, she was right all along, and the people who have been wronged, didn't take those two steps up her front door.

(I'm okay though, you know, don't look at me, please, I'm fine, don't yell, or apologize to me, not saying that you did or are, just.... I'm okay :P :D )

Hmm, I don't think you should bring that tadmin thing up, cause I'm not an admin, I've never been an admin, and Shaz isn't an admin either, she's just a moderator. Also, I already apologized, since I was on YIM with L and we talked about the whole chat room thing.

but u still got away with bashing...even tho its agasint the rules

and if shaz is a moderater and she got away iwth bashing?...i dont know

he-he, and so did you.... :P

exactly..

well, if i didnt "get away" with it....then that would be hypocritical.

but who started the bashing... (okay, stop this nonsense, point the finger here and there)

i didnt start it

i agree... i was getting annoyed too...lets drop it. yeah lets drop it and move on. and convince Shaz to stay! :P

yeah, i dont want anyone to leave

:( you guys can try, I've tried so much on AIM. She won't listen to me.

well, it's up to her.... :(

yeah *sigh*

Oh no! I don't want shaz to leave! This is horrible.... too many people are fighting. :( or were.

this is such a mess... :(

it is...

But we can't do anything about it, maybe beg shaz, but I'm not sure it'll work.

where does shaz hang out..besides here, well when she was still here..I don't see why we should beg her..I mean I would love to have her back..but if she doesn't want to be here anymore, that's her choice...hopefully she'll come to her senses

I don't knwo where she hangs out, I usually only talk to her on AIM, and beg is the only thing to do, because her choice is to leave.

tara and mary after everything u found out u guys still trust her? i mean im going to be polite to her and i don't mind if shes on ff but i cant trust her. u guys make it seem like u still do idk maybe i read ur posts wrong and shazz dont leavE!