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Title: Is anything real?
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Eklektikos - January 29, 2004 04:39 PM (GMT)
Race be buggered, I'm not even convinced that this forum or the keyboard I'm allegedly typing this on are real. Can anyone prove this to be the case? :kundor:

Merin Sun - January 29, 2004 05:28 PM (GMT)
you're mean :P

and that's real enough.

Eklektikos - January 29, 2004 05:31 PM (GMT)
But am I truly mean? Do I really exist or am I simply a delusion?

omichyron - January 29, 2004 06:23 PM (GMT)
we're all paranoid delusions in Merin's head :eek:

Eklektikos - January 29, 2004 06:25 PM (GMT)
Or alter egos of a Chiswick-based economist. If he or Chiswick actually exist :s

omichyron - January 29, 2004 06:29 PM (GMT)
maybe we're all alternate personalities of one person sitting at one computer and this whole forum is a giant demented discussion he's having with himself :kundor:

Switch625 - January 29, 2004 06:34 PM (GMT)
The solipsistic view is that nothing outside your own head is real as it cannot be conclusively proven or disproven. Therefore, you are the entirety of the universe.

Eklektikos - January 29, 2004 06:35 PM (GMT)
Provided of course I exist in the first place and am not a figment of the imagination of someone else who is in reality the entirety of the universe. Or at least thinks he is :kundor:

Switch625 - January 29, 2004 06:38 PM (GMT)
Wrong. Solipsism is exclusively self-centric. If you believe you are controlled or created by some outside agency, that is determinism, not solipsism.

Eklektikos - January 29, 2004 06:39 PM (GMT)
And what if I'm not entirely convinced that anything (including myself) exists at all?

Switch625 - January 29, 2004 06:43 PM (GMT)
That is "Cartesian skepticism."

omichyron - January 29, 2004 06:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Switch625 @ Jan 29 2004, 06:43 PM)
That is "Cartesian skepticism."

well, I don't believe that cartesian skepticism exists at all :mischief:

KaneDragon - January 29, 2004 08:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
The solipsistic view is that nothing outside your own head is real as it cannot be conclusively proven or disproven. Therefore, you are the entirety of the universe.

I'll take that view, then. I think that sums everything up nicely.




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