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Enigma Zero - August 20, 2004 07:38 AM (GMT)
Considering it won't be long before this series comes out I thought I would start a thread on it. Since it's not out just yet I'll fill you in with the information I have been able to locate to tide us over until the series launch.

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Comics Continuum Article:
The Batman animated series will be part of Kids' WB!'s new season launch on Saturday, Sept. 11, a network representative has confirmed for The Continuum.

The show's time period and debut episode have not been announced yet, according to the network.

The Batman was part of the Warner Bros. Animation presentation at Comic-Con International last weekend.

Sam Register of Cartoon Network, which is also airing the series, acknowledged Bruce Timm's work on the 1990s Batman series, as well as its influence on the network's shows today.

"When we did this Batman, I said, 'If we can be half as good as the original...' and I think we're three quarters there. I think it's pretty good," Register said. "It's very new. It's not like the other stuff. It's different."

An episode with Man-Bat was screened, and then producers Duane Capizzi and Michael Goghen briefly answered questions.
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Kids WB! Official The Batman Site.
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Toonzone Article(s):
Warner Bros. Animation will produce The Batman, a new animated series based on the DC Comics character, for Kids WB and Cartoon Network, the studio formally announced today.

The series, which will feature a continuity unrelated to the classic Batman: The Animated Series, will be about a young Batman in the third year of his crime-fighting career as he struggles to establish himself as the protector of Gotham City while balancing his crime-fighting role with his public persona as billionaire bachelor Bruce Wayne. Such classic Rogue's Gallery villains as the Joker, the Penguin, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, the Riddler and the Man-Bat will appear in stories that detail Batman's first encounters with them.

Batman himself, who will be in his mid-twenties, will live beneath elevated train tracks and within a 150-year-old drainage system, battling adversaries with experimental Bat-gadgets and amped-up Batmobiles. His arsenal of equipment will all be operated and linked by an advanced remote-controlled invention he dubs the "Bat-Wave."

The series' theme song will be performed by U2 member The Edge. No other details of cast or crew have been announced, but Variety confirms that Adam West will appear as the Mayor and that Gina Gershon will voice Catwoman.

"To me, this is a dream project. Batman is the ultimate action-adventure property, and I've been a fan all of my life," says Sam Register, senior vice president of original animation at Cartoon Network. "The characters will remain true to their heritage, but we're going to deliver an action-adventure show that will feel so fresh and stylish that today's kids will love it as much as we all did growing up. I think this new Batman animated series will be a show that kids and their parents will watch together."

Update (2-9): Zap2It.com adds that Rino Romano will voice Bruce Wayne, while Kevin Michael Richardson will play the Joker and Tom Kenny will play the Penguin. Ming-Na will voice an unnamed detective.

Update (2-10): Toon Zone has confirmed the above voice actor information, and can add that Alastair Duncan will play Alfred, Ming Na will play Detective Ellen Yin, and Steve Harris will play Clayface/Evan Bennett.

Update (2-10): Wizard Entertainment has an advance look at the cover of ToyFare magazine, which has images of the new Batman and Joker figures. (Via TZ poster Mad Monkey 7.)

Update (2-11): Mattel will offer a line of toys based on The Batman that will used VEIL (Video Encoded Invisible Light) technology to broadcast signals that will cause the action figures and vehicles to react with lights, motions and sound. Toon Zone has more.

Update (2-12): A source at Warner Bros. has told Toon Zone that, contrary to the impression given by the official press release, Batman "really will have a cave." The source declined to characterize the location further or to comment upon the role that the "drainage system" and "elevated tracks" would play in the series.
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And there you have it. I will provide more information as it becomes available to me....aka I stumble over it. ;)

Pilaf - August 20, 2004 07:41 AM (GMT)
Edited by Modly Powers.:angel:

excuse me while i drool... the original animated batman has got to be my favorite non-anime show ever. batman beyond was good, and JL was the closest I've seen to it. If this is anything near it, I will likely urinate myself.

eh, whats the difference? anyway, it seems batman has been keeping busy. looka t this news article.

http://www.getreading.co.uk/story.asp?intid=9314

Enigma Zero - August 20, 2004 08:02 AM (GMT)
I simply KNEW you were going to drop that link in here...that's what? The 4th time you have dropped that same link on these forums? :P

Pilaf - August 20, 2004 08:02 AM (GMT)
what? I like it. I even have it bookmarked.

xaviersxmen - August 20, 2004 11:02 AM (GMT)
From the amount of posts ion 18 days I am surpriased he didnt drop it even more then that.


But Zero I cant wait for this one. Some of the outfits look alittle dorky though. They should cat woman in a preview and she looked as dorky as the cat woman in the new movie.

Malach - August 20, 2004 01:44 PM (GMT)
It think the dorkiness is intentionally, while not being in any specific time frame, I think they are going after the 1940's vigilante style of Batman, hence the stylings.

I have said for years, that I would love them to do a animated/live action movie for some of the more mature Batman min series (ie. Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, Death of Robin). They would make really good Toonami movies.

xaviersxmen - August 20, 2004 04:20 PM (GMT)
There is a time frame, I read its like three years after he became Batman.

Enigma Zero - August 20, 2004 09:22 PM (GMT)
So it's basically Legends of The Dark Knight....only done in more of the original Detective Comics art style.

Pilaf - August 20, 2004 09:25 PM (GMT)
possibly...

xaviersxmen - August 20, 2004 10:58 PM (GMT)
Stop one word posting!

But Zero I do hope its good because it does look alittle wierd. I think I will still like it but I hope it starts good.:)

Pilaf - August 20, 2004 11:15 PM (GMT)
that was one of the few one word posts i have made outside of the fun games forum... and weirdness is why I liked the original and JL.

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 01:29 AM (GMT)
Yeah I think the game forums shouldnt even help you posts. How do you think these people got to 10,000 posts?

Taz L. Gonzales - August 21, 2004 01:30 AM (GMT)
hey, is it any of your business how they got to 10,000 posts?? oh, and the game forums dont help raise post count. does this satisfy you?

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 01:39 AM (GMT)
Now now there is like 4 or 5 people over 10,000 posts and all the forums other then the game forums has about as much as then foru posters. 40,000 posts in them four and about 80,000 posts in the forums that isnt in the game forums. That means the foru people with 10,000 posts have half the posts in this whole forum. I know they didnt get ALL them from the game forums but with this guy pilaf having over 1000 in 18 days isnt helping me believe he didnt spam to get them. come on thats like 70 or more posts a day and that seems like alot of nonspam posts.

Plus I dont think you should be so touchy unless it comes to you spaming. But I know you dont and for this guy to have that many in a small amount of time...it just seems wierd.


Edit: The VIP board with its game should go to your post count ethier.

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 01:43 AM (GMT)
But back on the Hero chat. I wonder if they are gonna have robin in it at firts? Does anyone know when robin started with Batman? Like three or four years after he became batman?

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 01:46 AM (GMT)
Edit: Sorry but I see you deleted you post.


"keep attacking"

???? WHAT? I attack ALL spammers! Does it hit close to home or something?

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 01:47 AM (GMT)
hm... I forget the timeline, but I don't think robin was a part of it until batman had made a name for himself (in the comics themselves)

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 01:47 AM (GMT)
What kind of name?

Enigma Zero - August 21, 2004 06:11 AM (GMT)
What pilaf here is referring to is the Golden Age,Silver Age, and Legend of The Dark Knight timelines. The term "Making a Name for Yourself" refers to the period when Batman was the new hero in town and thusly had to build a reputation as both a crimefighter and something that villians everywhere should fear. Making a name for yourself is pretty much the same thing as building yoru reputation. After Batman was an established entity in Gotham...actually many many years after this..events would lead him to take on his 1st sidekick to assist in his nightly battle agrainst crime. You call him Robin.

Bat-Funfact: While the current incarnation of Batman is against killing....the original Batman in Detective Comics had no such problem. There is even a cover that shows Batman swinging onto a window ledge and breaking a thug's neck. :D

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 06:13 AM (GMT)
that was exactly what I meant, thank you for clarifying enigma.

I have a book with A:the very first batman comic (not detective comics, but batman), it also has B:a story with the introduction of the batarang and the bat-gyro, in which he kills 2 vampires(not sure if that counts)

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 06:16 AM (GMT)
After three years(which this is from) he already made a name.

Enigma Zero - August 21, 2004 06:25 AM (GMT)
Well if you follow the Batman timeline as it is presented in the comic books then you basically see 3 phases.

Phase I: Batman is new on the scene. The police think he is just another criminal. The underworld occasionaly hear rumors about a Bat-Man who foils their plans.

Phase II: The Police suspect this "Batman" to be a Vigilante and still basically hunt him for his crimes. The Crimeworld is broken into two catagories, those who believe this "Batman is a myth" and those who simply think it's a clown in a bat outfit who needs to die.

Phase III: EVERYONE knows who Batman is now. He works with the police from time to time. They have a Bat Signal to call him when they need him. The Crime World are not sure what he is, but they know one thing for certain....he's real. This Batman also is occasionaly seen on television and such and affiliated with groups such as The Justice League of America.


xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 06:27 AM (GMT)
Well I believe that he is Phase II and he would have a name for himself.

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 06:32 AM (GMT)
yes, but it would be phase 3 when robin became a part of it, it just has something to do with the fact that he is target-boy...

Enigma Zero - August 21, 2004 06:33 AM (GMT)
Well, we're basically speculating at this point since we won'tknow until the series hits. If you look at Legend of The Dark Knight you will see that it took several years for batman to move from Phase I to Phase II, but since they are playing up the fact that a good chunk of the Rogue's Gallery will make appearances I would have to agree with you on this one. Most of the people Batman encountered during Legend of The Dark Knight were villians, but they were not villians of the caliber of The Rogue's Gallery.

For Those Who Might Not Know:
The Rogue's Gallery refers to the stable Batman Villians like Joker, Two-Face, Poison Ivy, Catwoman, Penguin, Clayface, ................

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 06:35 AM (GMT)
Well there is ONE thing that will answer it for us. If in the first or second show they have the Batsignal that would tell me they are in Phase III, right?

Enigma Zero - August 21, 2004 06:40 AM (GMT)
See, that's where it gets tricky. If you take Batman:The Animated Series, The Adventures of Superman, X-Men:Evolution, Justice League(and Unlimited), Teen Titans, and such you will notice they all have one thing in common. They 'loosely' follow the continuity of the comic material of which they are based. The Phases that I outlined are based in comic, but it's entirely possible for them to take elements from them all and make their own mythos. If you ever want to see two perfect examples of this then you need only take a good look at Teen Titans and X-Men: Evolution....and then compare them to their respective comic verions.

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 06:41 AM (GMT)
true, but lets see... batman started in the 30's or 40's... robin wasn't introduced until the 50's, just the way he was designed... so batman would have had to have been around for around a decade before robin became part of it.
ah, x-men:evo. the biggest problem with that was that A:they had the original members all screwed up, and the BIG problem, they tried to stick scott summers' personality into a teenager. eeugh.

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 06:42 AM (GMT)
Even though the X-Men: Evolution wasnt like the comics I REALLY enjoyed the young look at them becoming heroes.:)


Edit: Sorry pilaf but in TV land that could be 3 years. Tv land dont go along wiith our time. Plsu the show was REALLY bad! :bagged:

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 06:45 AM (GMT)
which show was really bad?

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 06:47 AM (GMT)
The 30s and 40s one. Real TV one not animated(if they had one in the 30s) "Holly......batman whatever". Man that was dorky.

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 06:53 AM (GMT)
i was talking about the batman comics... the show wouldn't have been till the 50's or 60's, because every episode was in color.

xaviersxmen - August 21, 2004 06:55 AM (GMT)
Remake color. I have seen movies that was in balck and white but now are in color so what you see dont mean that is what it aired in.

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 07:10 AM (GMT)
ok, you're right.

Enigma Zero - August 21, 2004 07:13 AM (GMT)
One night a few years ago they were running the original Black and White Movie Serials of Batman. I thought,"Cheesy Black and White Batman that's like the old FLash Gordon Stuff....yeah, I can watch this" so I popped some popcorn and sat down to watch it. 30 minutes later I was channel surfing. I watched an entire storyline and it was horrific. These were shot during WWII so they have some of the subliminal propaganda of the time. I see how this is relevant from a historical point of view and I tend to like things of it's nature like Tex Avery's "Wolf Blitzer", but Batman had one problem that kept getting on my nerves. It was amazingly racist. I recal one scene where they showed an empty street with wind blowing and tumbleweed and the narator came on and basically said...

"The Gotham Chinatown. Blooming Orchid of The East. Well at least it was until we found out what those <Omitted Derrogatory Chinese Racial Slur> were up to and locked them all up."

My jaw hit the floor. Batman was never like that in the comics. Oh and that's back when Bruce Wayne's Car WAS the Batmobile. They kept a giant Batman Head in the trunk and strapped it to the front when they went to fight crime. Bruce didn't have a batcave. At one point they changed in the back seat. Oh and Robin's real name was Burt Something. BURT!

Ok, onto X-Men Evolution. I have watched all 3 animated incarnations of the X-Men and this is what I came up with...

X-Men Pilot/Spiderman and His Amazing Friends 2 parter with X-Men Cameo: These were hilarious. Wolverine had a horrible voice with a French Canadian Accent. They were the best that was to be offered at the time.

X-Men(Fox):
Ok, this was ok. It started out good, but then they simply tried to ohard to incorperate too much content into the series. They ended up, instead, butchering some of the better known storylines in X-Men History(Days of Future Past almost made me physically ill).

X-Men: Evolution:
IMHO, this is how you should handle something like X-Men due to the sheer size and scale of the subject matter. You take the core concept, modify it, and mold it into your own mythos. This way the fans get the characters they want to see, but they don't have the comics to fall back on and nitpick your series to death. I actually likes this show. If it's over then I am kind of sad. I liked their take on Apocalypse.

Oh and pilaf....Imagining Scott Summers as a teenager is about as hard to do as imagining Superman as a Boy Scout. It's not that much of a stretch.

Pilaf - August 21, 2004 08:31 AM (GMT)
no, it's not that, it's that they stuck the whole 'do good' personality into a rather rebellious character. It just didn't work. and superman as a boy scout is hard to imagine, i keep thinking of him ripping up trees to create a bonfire, but gets yelled at cause they're protected trees.

Voltei - September 3, 2004 02:42 AM (GMT)
Isn't this supposed to be about "The Batman" ? :P

To pilaf: Superman as a Boy Scout wouldn't be TOO hard to imagine, even if he still had all those powers...

I find a Communist Superman like the one in "Red Sun" more unimaginable.

Random Comment: I don't like Catwoman's outfit in this series, but oh well.

Oplasma45 - September 3, 2004 02:49 AM (GMT)
I don't like what they did with the Joker. I mean look at him!!!!!!(see picture). And they even replaced Mark Hamill!!!!!! And they made Mr.Freeze um....intresting Also Bane is all red or something.

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Naruko - September 3, 2004 02:50 AM (GMT)
Another rip off probably,like batman beyond.

Oplasma45 - September 3, 2004 02:55 AM (GMT)
Batman Beyond I believe was made by the people who did Batman: the Animated Series. And if you're wondering, this is what the new Catwoman looks like:

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