Just curious, I myself am in the middle of "So so" and "Nerd"

Oh man as if knowing how to use the WinAPI would mean being an expert in C++. The WinAPI is a C lib. Also horribly designed => not something with which you can show that you understand how to do good programming in C++.

Good is relativ to bad. So a programmer is good if he is better than other programmers.

I have been doing a lot of interviews recently.
When you ask people there coding skill on a rank of 0-10

Everybody has said they were an 8 or 9.

When we have done the programming test, we find that most people are a 3-5 if they just got out of colledge and 5-7 in you have had 4+ years professional experiece.

We have a theory here that everybody thinks they are good because they don't know what else there is too learn. They are very good at what they know, its just there is so much more to learn than you think.

myork Can u test me ? it would be interesting to know how well i can code
it probably be 2-3 tough :mellow:

Unfortunately I can't send the test out of the company now.
If people found the test on the net they could cheat when they came for an interview. There are also other legal problems.


Give me a few days and I'll put together somthing similar (but different) at home and send it too you.

If you do would you mind posting it? I'm sure that a lot of people around here would love to know what sort of questions are asked in such a test (including me).

Do you now mean learning how to use lots of libraries or the many possible tricks and features that you can do with C++? (at the later I'd think that I'm good but at the former I'm rather limited to a few libraries (STL,WinAPI,SDL)).

Well if they came in and said that they were 3-5 do you think that they would have a chance to get the job? Well at least everybody says that if you make a unsure impression at an interview you will surely not get it. (This is a general opinion and not directly related to a programing job.)

Very nice of u :)

Oh crap! You guys are right. There should be more. I tryed to edit it but I cant change the pole. If you are better (which I'm sure a few of you are) just say. I'm sorry 'bout the bad pole.

I am: :mellow: :unsure: -_- (<_< at my ignorance)

looking forward to your sort of test myork ^_^

yeah i dont consider myself anywhere near expert... but ya i know some win32 api stuff and a few other odds and ends maybey im a .05 on a proffessional test :lol: oh well im just a hobbyist as of now anyway. i guess my basic philosophy on how much c++ i know is based on every day , it seems like i know less and less, because i think i know a bit more of whats going on...

Well, i use VC++ but what i know (badly) is to program in C.
Anyway i am trying to make a game in Win32api (Fullscreen) ;)

I think I am about a novice, since I cant really make a win32 app, i can just make a simple application that does simple math problems, and I know a little bit of classes.

You are trying to make a game with the Win32 API? Good luck... Maybe you should learn OpenGL. :)

Man, I would hardly call easily making Win32 API progs expert. But, it's an OK poll to see peoples level of knowledge in c++.

Mee too :)

whats wrong with that? you can draw images, accept input and play sounds. what more do you need for a simple game?

I agree with ih8censorship. Making a game with basically only Win32 API wouldn't be a problem at all. It is actually quite easy and isn't to slow for simple games. :D

I have already done several games using the GDI.

Well,i must amdit that even if its a power-kang i dont like the way it works.Libs,and files....
I prefer the Good ol' Pascal way!

i dont know where would someone who is looking into dynamically modifying the PE. but barely understands how to use the GDI be?

I would consider myself so-so. I can use classes well, I find pointers a bit hard to understand (but I'm getting there), and I only know a bit of
WIN API C++. I'll get better with time, as with most things. :)

Pandemonium i suggest you look into some C turtorials they usualy cover pointers fairly well.

I think I am between soso and a nerd
I know classes but i never actually used them before
pointers are a little confusing (sometimes)
i am beginning win32

I think I'm so so, maybe?
I know classes, and I think I can say that I know pointers pretty well... don't know, it's hard to judge yourself :P

yes , just ask Ceti , he knows how i judge :lol: :P

Yup. Take C-Man's C++ IRC pop quiz and he will demolish you :lol:

mmmmm demolishion :rolleyes:

I don't want to be demolished :P

Novice. I can make a text adventure for example, and I do know classes and pointers, but only half, so I floored my result.

well, with these choices it puts me around being a nerd. although my programs still have little true functionality... i don't think knowing C++ makes you a good programmer, having good ideas and patience to build them is what makes a good programmer.

I'm a n00b :P

yeah that makes me a uber n00b too :D

Newbie, I can do the hello world program, and also know some of the commands like tab and new line. There is some other ones, but since I can't do it from memory I don't consider is something I know.

BTW, what's up everybody. New here and enjoy the site.

Just on a note: win32 is an API, it has nothing whatsoever to do with your knowledge of a programming language.

Consumed- well to program win32 api, that kind of implys that your advanced enough to know about pointers and structures and different data types, after all not every newbie can make a windows side scrollar with bitmap images right after hello world. so id say that it says a little bit anyway for your knowledge of the language itself.

i guess i'm a nerd...
I'm good with console, and starting to learn win 32 API and understanding it...
Even though I've been C++ programming since Sept. '04... :(

lol your on like the same timeline i was then :) ive still got a lot to learn though, seems like every time i think i know something something else comes around

the problem is those who are not familiar with the win32 API would find it difficult to participate in the poll. if some one knows C++ quite well but has used, say, Qt or something like that, then what should he/she select in the poll? also there is no reason why someone who always creates console based projects cannot have better knowledge about C++ than the one who creates windows based projects.

I completely agree wityh Dorto on this subject

Novice... I cant go behind making a Magic 8-ball, lol.

win API is too hard...

winapi is beeing abandoned by m$