Title: Computer Shutdown Problem
Dragon - August 17, 2004 08:59 PM (GMT)
My computer has a shutdown problem. Whenever I shut it down from the Start menu it restarts the computer and I have to shut the computer down by pressing the power button. I'm running Windows 98. Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
Consumed - August 18, 2004 05:21 AM (GMT)
I've never had that problem before. I suppose you could write a prog that would shutdown without the start menu with ExitWindowsEx() or something...
Dragon - August 18, 2004 06:15 AM (GMT)
I want to know why this happens so I can fix the problem.
Incubator - August 18, 2004 07:00 AM (GMT)
I had the same prob in linux but worse
even the power button made it reboot
reason: network card had bad contact due to dust
Dragon - August 18, 2004 08:39 AM (GMT)
So the solution to the problem is to clean the area around the network card? Where is the network card located?
C-Man - August 18, 2004 08:44 AM (GMT)
It's located i'n ur box ( if u have one that is )
Dragon - August 18, 2004 08:51 AM (GMT)
C-Man - August 18, 2004 10:21 AM (GMT)
can u even get more Clueless DUH
myork - August 18, 2004 02:17 PM (GMT)
When you select "Start/Shutdown" (Even thats an oxymoron trust microsoft)
It should display a dialog asking are you sure.
In this dialog there are several options including 'restart'and 'turn computer off'.
Make sure you have selected 'turn computer off' before clicking 'OK'
Incubator - August 18, 2004 04:58 PM (GMT)
small correction:
for some obnoxious reason it shut down properly yesterday but today not :(
so far for my theory....
Dragon - August 18, 2004 08:28 PM (GMT)
myork, I'm not clueless enough to make a mistake like that. :) This has happened repeatedly and not just once.
dr voodoo - August 18, 2004 08:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dragon @ Aug 18 2004, 08:28 PM) |
| myork, I'm not clueless enough to make a mistake like that. :) This has happened repeatedly and not just once. |
Select restart, perhaps it will shut down then :lol: .
But now seriously, I haven't had this problem, but I would suspect that during the going down process some program makes windows crash -> sort of blue screen error without blue screen -> win always restarts then. Perhaps deactivating some background programs might help.
Have you unpluged the computer for let us say about a minute? When I had Win98 I sometimes got a bluscreen so Windows tried to resart but it always crashed during the startup. Solution : Unplug the computer. I suspect that when restarting Windows will recycle some bytes it finds in memory (so it doesn't need to load them again). If those contain the error, bum. But when the memory is no longer suplied with power all information it contains will be definetly lost so Windows has to reload them.
If that doesn't help could you tell use what you have done just before the problem araised?
Dragon - August 18, 2004 09:16 PM (GMT)
I will unplug the computer and see if it helps. I installed SBC Yahoo! DSL software before the problem arised, so perhaps it has something to do with that.
Edit
I unplugged the computer and that didn't correct the problem.
myork - August 19, 2004 01:15 PM (GMT)
Try re-booting in safe mode.
Then shut down. See if the problem still exists.
If not then I suspect that Dr V is correct.
NB The program that is causing windows to crash may be some virus or work or somthing.
Dragon - August 19, 2004 02:51 PM (GMT)
OK, I'll try that. Thanks for all the help. :)
Consumed - August 19, 2004 05:53 PM (GMT)
SBC dsl? Hmmm, I have had a few problems since I installed that. Something about some of the software not working correctly on win98. And WinMySQLadmin always used to crash during shutdown until I started shuting it off before I shutdown win.
Dragon - August 19, 2004 06:36 PM (GMT)
My computer shuts down now after I selected "Disable fast shutdown" in msconfig. What does "Disable fast shutdown" do?
Dragon - August 19, 2004 06:45 PM (GMT)
OK, I know what "Disable fast shutdown" does now. Is it OK to continue disabling fast shutdown or is it better to use fast shutdown? When I use fast shutdown then my computer restarts when I try to shut it down, but it shuts down fine when I disable fast shutdown. I tried starting my computer in safe mode and then shutting it down, but that doesn't work either. So, my question is: is OK to leave the setting at "Disable fast shutdown" or is fast shutdown better for the computer or something?
dr voodoo - August 19, 2004 08:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| OK, I know what "Disable fast shutdown" does now. |
Mind to tell us what it does because that's the first time that I hear of such an option.
Dragon - August 19, 2004 08:11 PM (GMT)
When you shut down Windows 95 or 98 all device drivers are uninitialized. If fast shutdown is enabled, device drivers and not uninitialized, which results in a faster shutdown.
Danny - August 20, 2004 01:59 AM (GMT)
Well, I have had a similar problem before. What I always do when I have an issue with my comp is re-format it and re-install winxp. Well, I can't help ya apart from suggesting you either keep that "fast shutdown" option enabled or re-install your OS (Unless ofcourse you don't have spare CD's and you have important files on there which you can't bare to loose :lol: :) ).
**edit**
Don't play up with msconfig too much. I did and I regret it. I was trying to disable "Remote Procedure Call (RPC)" instead of worrying bout enabling my advanced firewall program. :unsure: (extreemly embarrased) I even tried removing it from the system registry :wacko:
Danny
C-Man - August 20, 2004 06:26 AM (GMT)
Oh i mess around my registry & msconfig from time to time . I love regedit
and i have some knowlage about some of the key's
MonkeyMan - August 20, 2004 06:40 AM (GMT)
I got SBC DSL. Upload suz but I can live with that. I never had much of a problem with it. And now that I got the router no more software. Thats what I love about routers. :lol:
dr voodoo - August 20, 2004 09:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| When you shut down Windows 95 or 98 all device drivers are uninitialized. If fast shutdown is enabled, device drivers and not uninitialized, which results in a faster shutdown. |
Meaning that the device drivers do not get a chance to close down but are simply killed as you do with not wanted programs in the task manager? Of course deactivate "fast shutdown".
If you start doing such things then you might as power down at any time, would be a much faster. Stupid M$ for even makeing such an option. Just think of a driver that buffers output using RAM, all will be lost because it doesn't get a chance to flush.
KTC - August 20, 2004 02:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Danny @ Aug 20 2004, 02:59 AM) |
Don't play up with msconfig too much. I did and I regret it. I was trying to disable "Remote Procedure Call (RPC)" instead of worrying bout enabling my advanced firewall program. :unsure: (extreemly embarrased) I even tried removing it from the system registry :wacko:
Danny |
No. Disabling or removing RPC is not a good idea -_-
| QUOTE |
Remote Procedure Call Windows applications generally run in separate processes, which is a very good thing (a crash in one application doesn't affect others, for example). Communication between processes can be handy, though, and that's the feature that RPC provides. Windows needs RPC to run, and disabling this feature is likely to cause very serious problems. So don't do it. |
Dragon - August 20, 2004 06:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| If you start doing such things then you might as power down at any time, would be a much faster. Stupid M$ for even makeing such an option. Just think of a driver that buffers output using RAM, all will be lost because it doesn't get a chance to flush. |
Later versions of Windows don't use fast shutdown.