i just started reading about C#, it is very easy. Developed by Microsoft it has the power/ functionality of C++ but is as easy as Visua Basic.
For example:

instead of std::cout << "enter text here" << std::endl;
u can use easier text such as
System.Console.WriteLine("This is better");

it give real life words instead of cout, cin, endl; and more

While not going into the details of which language is better than which other because one should choose the language for the job.... That arguement doesn't stand very much does it coz you can just think of cout as ConsoleOUTput and endl as END-Line ....

Oh, there's a lot of things one can do in C++ that one can't in C# becuase of the nature of C# design that means it runs on top of the .Net framework thing (can't remember the correct name for it :unsure: )....

Ehh :blink: that's an argument for C++ (at least for me)

ok C# uses real wordz. and C# is a derivative of C/C++ it does have all of the functionality of C++ and it has many more keywords that sound like english not taking words and smashing them together like cout

That's not my point. I prefer writting cout than System.Console.WriteLine because the C# way is 6 times as much tipping

well everybody has their prefs, o well both are good

hmm you do know the meanings of the words cout and cin and endl dont you? i agree with dr voodoo the c# way is just too much typing for the same thing.

i actualy think of cout as C (the language) OUTput .

i think that at this point in time c++ is still better i dont think they make a c# compiler for linux since c# is made by microsoft :huh:

cout=Console Output
cin=Console Input
endl=Endline

i know, i just seem to like C# more

MS didn't but some other people have :)
http://www.go-mono.com/

C# is a higher level language than C or C++. There is some things you just cannot do with C# because of it being on top of the CLR (or JVM in java case). Now, I'm not saying there's no use for C#, I'm just saying one just can't say one language is better than another full-stop (period). You need to choose which language to use base on what you're doing.

both C++/C# have their limits i agree, i just am saying at a first glance newbs would find C# easier since t uses real words and not words smashed together

u r true somewhat but in c++ the words just have a few letters tookn out of them, its pretty easy to figure out what the words say/mean even if your a n00b. (which i am)

Actually C++ has absolutely no limits because of one keyword in particular: asm

lol ya true, but anyways i like c++ better :) (thats my opinion)

C++.NET can do
Console::WriteLine(S"This is better");

C# (C Sharp) is supposed to be MS attack on Java. I like Java better than C#.

actually, c++ does the same thing.

in c++ you can display text with System::Console::WriteLine(S"sss");

you just need the .NET framework. I like .NET a lot (kicks java's ass in some cases)

to create GUIs in c++ just create a class:

and then use Application::Run(new ThisIsAWindow()) to display the form.

It isn't the language that is making stuff simpler, it is the .NET framework.

Totally agree.
That's what makes Java great the standard library that comes with Java does everything, if only there were somthing similar in C++.

I am not going the C# though. With a bit of extra work you can find all the libs you need on the web. I just wish sombody would consolidate them into a single site.

me too, try making stackwidgets in .NEt, its horror, in Java or C++ it s a cakewalk

stack widgets?

C# was meant to be protable. As in you compile it on any system and it will run on any other. That is what I have taken from it. BTW the .NET framework is supposed to be protable as well to other systems (not at this time but in the future).

not entirely.
.NET is NOT portable to linux.
If mono (.net version for linux) did not exists then it wouldnt be portable at all?
but still, it is not complete because m$ doesnt release code (again)
for example, a .net app for windows (with gui) will not run in linux. (error: Windows.forms.form not found)

With stack widgets I mean:

http://doc.trolltech.com/3.3/qwidgetstack.html

a container to hold severl layouts and show the one you need when you do something.
In .net you need a Panel, but that works very bad
.net is not good for us hardcoders, while Java and C++ is. (.net relies too much on the drag & drop gui creation)

Also .net requires you to install a MEGA large installation of the .net framework, it needs at minimum 12 MB ram when running such an app (and can rise to 50mb for a simple prog)

this is a little off topic but- does anyone know if microsoft has released source for anything they have made? short of examples..... :mellow:

There are a few code examples at msdn but as far as I know, that's it.

and they're not very useful either. Nor protable. (as mentioned above)
Qt's wide examples and resources ar far better
http://users.skynet.be/incubator/examples.jpg

look how many? (those are just the compiled binaries, the source is also included in QT :) )