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Title: Tentative Layout.


Kai-V - June 12, 2005 11:18 AM (GMT)
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cybertigeranime.com/bbspirit/Beyblade%20Spirit/BeybladeSpirit_Layout_Sample.jpg

Basically, this is what it will look like. It's my first layout ever, so I am open to critics, comments, tips, etc.

I would appreciate if I received most ratings soon, as I am already late ...

Yukiya - June 12, 2005 12:49 PM (GMT)
Perfect. I love it, Kai-V. Truly a masterpiece. Bow down to the master. ^^;;

Kai-V - June 12, 2005 01:03 PM (GMT)
Are the content and navigation box large enough ?

Kuznetsov - June 12, 2005 01:46 PM (GMT)
In my opinion the navigation box is fine but maybe the content box should be bigger, it all depends though what is to go in it. On average content boxes are wider.

Takao X - June 12, 2005 01:59 PM (GMT)
it's awsome but maybe if you make things a bit bigger.

Heavens.Cloud - June 12, 2005 02:00 PM (GMT)
Woah, that's an awesome layout, I think the contents box should be a bit wider, besides that everything else is amazing. When will the website be running again ?

Sakuya - June 12, 2005 02:47 PM (GMT)
Wow I totally love what you did to the layout. Yeah like this said maybe content box just to be a little bigger but every thing else is great! Can't wait to see the site up again ^^

Composer of Requiems - June 12, 2005 04:16 PM (GMT)
Ouh... very nice rough feel to it. But, I'm extremely biased against blending of multiple images, such as on the left edge.

GenocideBB-Shadow - June 12, 2005 07:21 PM (GMT)
I love everything else but the black and blue space where the contents are meant to be. Something about the blending isn't really much of a good match as Nic also said. IMO it'll look better if it's using a thin white 1px dotted line around the black instead so it's more blended in.

Kai-V - June 12, 2005 09:51 PM (GMT)
user posted image

Is this better, somehow ? ...
I don't really see how a white dotted border can improve it, personally ...
Also, I couldn't do much for the blending/banner itself. It would look too empty.


Who added a poll to this topic ? And who voted for 'it's bad' ...

Kuznetsov - June 12, 2005 10:01 PM (GMT)
Well, I didn't vote for bad. I don't see who should have without giving reasons.
The white border defines the edge more, I guess, I can't think of another reason to use it. The sizes of the boxes are fine now though, I don't think the blending needs any alterations, it's fine how it is.

Ancalagon - June 13, 2005 05:48 AM (GMT)
Not so shabby! I've seen better, tho... *cough RAI cough cough*

Therefore, I have woted 4 gOOd! ^__^


Dragoon X - June 13, 2005 11:12 PM (GMT)
It's a very impressive layout, Kai-V. It's something different compared to the past layouts that were on the website. Did you mean to create the layout just to suit bitbeasts and beyblades themselves, or did you mean to turn the focus away from the Takao and Brooklyn pic included in the layout?

Kai-V - June 14, 2005 12:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragoon X @ Jun 13 2005, 11:12 PM)
It's a very impressive layout, Kai-V. It's something different compared to the past layouts that were on the website. Did you mean to create the layout just to suit bitbeasts and beyblades themselves, or did you mean to turn the focus away from the Takao and Brooklyn pic included in the layout?

What Tamer Brad suggested seemed more of a challenge than using actual characters. I actually had my own idea, but I also wanted to know if I could form something decent with blades, for a change ...

QUOTE (Ancalagon)
Not so shabby! I've seen better, tho... *cough RAI cough cough*

Since when are small trees more productive than tall woods ...

QUOTE (Heavens.Cloud)
When will the website be running again ?

Soon enough. Certainly before the forums turn two.

Kai - June 14, 2005 12:19 AM (GMT)
I think it looks really good Kai-V.

GuardianX - June 14, 2005 01:45 AM (GMT)
I never added the poll. But the layout's pretty spiffy. Even if it is just Dragoon that appeals to me. ^^;

Liger - June 15, 2005 03:35 PM (GMT)
That's absolutely awesome Kai-V! I love it.

Ancalagon - June 15, 2005 04:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kai-V @ Jun 14 2005, 12:08 AM)
QUOTE (Ancalagon)
Not so shabby! I've seen better, tho... *cough RAI cough cough*

Since when are small trees more productive than tall woods ...

... why'know, -oh wait, I'll definately get banned if I say that, so I'll go easy. Rai's works fits more within my taste than your works. :))

Kai-V - June 15, 2005 05:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ancalagon @ Jun 15 2005, 04:30 PM)
QUOTE (Kai-V @ Jun 14 2005, 12:08 AM)
QUOTE (Ancalagon)
Not so shabby! I've seen better, tho... *cough RAI cough cough*

Since when are small trees more productive than tall woods ...

... why'know, -oh wait, I'll definately get banned if I say that, so I'll go easy. Rai's works fits more within my taste than your works. :))

I'd be a complete idiot to ban someone for expressing their opinion. After all, I did do an oral presentation on the freedom of speech ...




Anyway. Unfortunatly, I think we lost our coding person because I was young and had suicidal thoughts for decent reasons, which no one would understand ...

Ancalagon - June 15, 2005 05:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kai-V @ Jun 15 2005, 05:29 PM)
QUOTE (Ancalagon @ Jun 15 2005, 04:30 PM)
QUOTE (Kai-V @ Jun 14 2005, 12:08 AM)
QUOTE (Ancalagon)
Not so shabby! I've seen better, tho... *cough RAI cough cough*

Since when are small trees more productive than tall woods ...

... why'know, -oh wait, I'll definately get banned if I say that, so I'll go easy. Rai's works fits more within my taste than your works. :))

I'd be a complete idiot to ban someone for expressing their opinion. After all, I did do an oral presentation on the freedom of speech ...

Right.

Well, I still think Rai would be able to make a better one O)

Dragoon X - June 15, 2005 06:26 PM (GMT)
Ancalagon, stfu.

You really don't care about this place, do you? If you don't, then leave. We don't need n00bs like you.

Kai-V, have you had thoughts of possibly making another layout since the name of the topic says "Tentative Layout"?

Kai-V - June 15, 2005 06:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragoon X @ Jun 15 2005, 06:26 PM)
Ancalagon, stfu.

You really don't care about this place, do you? If you don't, then leave. We don't need n00bs like you.

Kai-V, have you had thoughts of possibly making another layout since the name of the topic says "Tentative Layout"?

Facts are not established by opinions.


Hm, I did not know if using blades material was a good idea, so I thought perhaps featuring [a] character[s] would be better, regardless of the facility I would have had ...

Kuznetsov - June 15, 2005 07:00 PM (GMT)
I guess it would be good two have two layouts for comparison. It's not like the first one made should be the first one used, since things are still in production at this stage, but that isn't to say it isn't good enough as it is.

Blades on their own would make it look empty, the use of Dragoon as a bitbeast helped to fill it but use of one or more characters in the design might make it look better.

Kai-V - June 15, 2005 07:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kuznetsov @ Jun 15 2005, 07:00 PM)
I guess it would be good two have two layouts for comparison. It's not like the first one made should be the first one used, since things are still in production at this stage, but that isn't to say it isn't good enough as it is.

Blades on their own would make it look empty, the use of Dragoon as a bitbeast helped to fill it but use of one or more characters in the design might make it look better.

Aren't the pictures of Brooklyn and Takao visible enough ...

Kuznetsov - June 15, 2005 08:12 PM (GMT)
They are visible, just not to the extent of seeing them 'standing out' in the layout.

Maybe if they were un-colourized or given a slight colour-tint they would 'match' the image of the Dragoon blade, which in my eyes is the part that catches attention first. They are quite small images, if the purpose of them there is to be visible or to 'stand out' then keeping the colour would work. This is just my opinion, I don't know if others would agree with this if they are fine with it as it is.

Then again... there will be content within this layout which will add to the overall colour, I suppose if the navigation and content images are to be part of the 'background' and not standing out to be part of the content then keeping a consistent colour design is fine.

GuardianX - June 15, 2005 10:26 PM (GMT)
Whoa, I just noticed the Takao picture on the Navigation Bar... Brooklyn was fairly easy to see, not really at a first glance though. Maybe changing the coloring would help for them to stand out a bit more. I'm not much of an artist, so I don't really know what would look best. But having the characters stand out more (in whatever way) would be nicer.

It would look pretty empty without characters, which I thought there weren't any besides Brooklyn until this moment.

Summoner Yuna - June 17, 2005 12:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kai-V @ Jun 15 2005, 02:56 PM)
Aren't the pictures of Brooklyn and Takao visible enough ...

They are pretty visible if you have a decent eye, it's just that to some people it won't stick out becuase of the consistant color sceme.

The Layout is excellent.

Unfortunetly for me beucase of my screen resolution is looks a little short but I'm sure it looks bigger on someone with 800x600.

GenocideBB-Shadow - June 17, 2005 11:20 AM (GMT)
The new layout looks really cool, but I suppose Kai-V can do any other alterations to it however she pleases, non of her graphics designs has ever been a dissapointment anyway.

This might be a bit outragous to both the original owner, Kyle, and to Kai-V but what if we use the old navy layout he designed with DZV & DGV in the header and re-designed it then blend it into this new one and see how it turns out?

Ancalagon - June 17, 2005 03:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragoon X @ Jun 15 2005, 06:26 PM)
Ancalagon, stfu.

You really don't care about this place, do you? If you don't, then leave. We don't need n00bs like you.

So a guy can't speak his opinions without getting told to stfu? If that's the case, you're the "nOOb" here. ^__^

I don't really care about bbs in the same way you do. For me, it's just some forum about a certain Anime/spinning-top game I go to when I want to kill some time. If it goes down, it goes down. ^__^ I got other places to go to. :)) But that doesn't mean I don't care about it at all.

Kai-V - June 17, 2005 05:25 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GenocideBB-Shadow @ Jun 17 2005, 11:20 AM)
This might be a bit outragous to both the original owner, Kyle, and to Kai-V but what if we use the old navy layout he designed with DZV & DGV in the header and re-designed it then blend it into this new one and see how it turns out?

... For the site or the message board ?

.::MAX::. - June 19, 2005 12:07 AM (GMT)
I know how hard it is to build a layout, I always have gfx designers block. Are we going for a kiddy feel or a professional feel? Call me crazy but I REALLY don't like it. Not saying I could do any better though. I'll give it a try later if you want.

Kuznetsov - June 19, 2005 09:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (.::MAX::. @ Jun 19 2005, 12:07 AM)
I know how hard it is to build a layout, I always have gfx designers block. Are we going for a kiddy feel or a professional feel? Call me crazy but I REALLY don't like it. Not saying I could do any better though. I'll give it a try later if you want.

So, you're the one that voted 'bad'? Why do you dislike it so much, what doesn't it have that one you could make would.

I'd like to see what the layout Genocide was talking about looks like though...

Edit: It's the site, not the message board for the layout suggestion.

.::MAX::. - June 19, 2005 06:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kuznetsov @ Jun 19 2005, 03:52 AM)
QUOTE (.::MAX::. @ Jun 19 2005, 12:07 AM)
I know how hard it is to build a layout, I always have gfx designers block. Are we going for a kiddy feel or a professional feel? Call me crazy but I REALLY don't like it. Not saying I could do any better though. I'll give it a try later if you want.

So, you're the one that voted 'bad'? Why do you dislike it so much, what doesn't it have that one you could make would.

I'd like to see what the layout Genocide was talking about looks like though...

Edit: It's the site, not the message board for the layout suggestion.

Theres no poll?

Anyways, it looks to kiddish. To uneven, I liked bbs's old layout. I'm not saying we should go back to that though. I just think we need a more professional looking layout.

Kai-V - June 20, 2005 10:50 AM (GMT)
You have to take into consideration that I cannot improve if not given 'special eyes' to see the errors.

My main goal was to create something more different than the past layouts. Personally, grey is not a very interesting colour.

Also, you should give me links to Beyblade sites that look professionnal. I just don't see what you mean ...


GenocideBB-Shadow, I really don't remember what it looks like ...

GenocideBB-Shadow - June 20, 2005 01:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kai-V @ Jun 17 2005, 05:25 PM)
QUOTE (GenocideBB-Shadow @ Jun 17 2005, 11:20 AM)
This might be a bit outragous to both the original owner, Kyle, and to Kai-V but what if we use the old navy layout he designed with DZV & DGV in the header and re-designed it then blend it into this new one and see how it turns out?

... For the site or the message board ?

The site.

EDIT: Hmm well it was only a suggestion, nevermind we should stick to what we have now and work on it. I'm probably the only one who was around that version of BBS at the time.

Zanon - June 20, 2005 07:57 PM (GMT)
black is such a depressing colour.

why not just use kyle's old bbspirit layout with his permission?

Composer of Requiems - June 21, 2005 07:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (.::MAX::. @ Jun 19 2005, 06:56 PM)
QUOTE (Kuznetsov @ Jun 19 2005, 03:52 AM)
QUOTE (.::MAX::. @ Jun 19 2005, 12:07 AM)
I know how hard it is to build a layout, I always have gfx designers block. Are we going for a kiddy feel or a professional feel? Call me crazy but I REALLY don't like it. Not saying I could do any better though. I'll give it a try later if you want.

So, you're the one that voted 'bad'? Why do you dislike it so much, what doesn't it have that one you could make would.

I'd like to see what the layout Genocide was talking about looks like though...

Edit: It's the site, not the message board for the layout suggestion.

Theres no poll?

Anyways, it looks to kiddish. To uneven, I liked bbs's old layout. I'm not saying we should go back to that though. I just think we need a more professional looking layout.

I strongly agree. There's really too many layouts at the moment that just look like a few images thrown together.

GenocideBB-Shadow - June 21, 2005 09:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zanon @ Jun 20 2005, 07:57 PM)
black is such a depressing colour.

why not just use kyle's old bbspirit layout with his permission?

Because most of us can't get hold of him. Even if we did, what's going to make him say yes after all the horrible things everyone's said about him?

GuardianX - June 21, 2005 11:29 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GenocideBB-Shadow @ Jun 21 2005, 03:45 PM)
QUOTE (Zanon @ Jun 20 2005, 07:57 PM)
black is such a depressing colour.

why not just use kyle's old bbspirit layout with his permission?

Because most of us can't get hold of him. Even if we did, what's going to make him say yes after all the horrible things everyone's said about him?

It's pretty easy to find him. He spends a lot of his time at Ty Kamara. But he changes his username often by the looks of it. Last time I saw him his username was "Kii". Anyways, I doubt he wouldn't give it to us, since he really has no use for it.

But I also doubt that he still has it. He probably deleted his computer of all of its Beyblade stuff.

Kuznetsov - June 22, 2005 06:04 PM (GMT)
Hmm, there isn't much point chasing someone for an old layout. So what if it looks professional, if someone could post or provide a link to a 'professional' layout style it would help move things forward, a new one can be made or maybe somehow blended with the current one as GenocideBB-Shadow suggested.

Kira/Kii (still is Kii currently) does still make layouts but I don't think the best solution is to ask him, I agree it's most likey he doesn't have that layout, but again it's not the only one in the world, people might not like that one if it still exists anyway.




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